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REDSKIN2 01-10-2007, 12:31 PM Whose to say that Grimm would want to work for Dan, remember Grimm will need time to grow into his role as a Head Coach something Dan isn't patient doing. Plus I see Grimm wanting to work with an experienced proven GM. He doesn't seem like the type that wants both roles. Everyone sees how Spurrier was at an disadvantage with Cerrato and Dan, Laurel and Hardy.
jdlea 01-10-2007, 12:32 PM Don't misunderstand me; I'm not saying that I think this will happen, or even that it's half way possible. Personally, I think we should pursue him, but we won't.
My question to you jdlea, is giving a coach five years to clean up an organization is unheard of now days. Three years is being relatively patient. I think if we have another season such as this one, it's time to show Gibbs the door.
I definitely see where you're coming from and I was on the "one more losing season and Gibbs needs to be fired" side of the fence until recently. (I reserve the right to get back on that side at some point) However, I think they should just go ahead and give him some time IF he says that, should he turn it around, he'll stay on for more than those five years. I don't want to see him get to the playoffs a couple times (probably the best case scenario) and then leave. Given his age and everything, that's probably unlikely, but IF he tells Snyder that if he makes them a contender then he'll keep coaching the team for awhile, I think some patience is probably warranted.
What changed my opinion on the Gibbs being canned after another losing season is the fact that that would be typical Washington Redskins. One winning season, 3 losing, you're gone. Now, it would probably be typical of most other teams in the league as well, but I think they need to show a little more patience and restraint...don't get this twisted either. This is no way out of respect for Joe Gibbs's Super Bowl rings, I would be saying this about any other coach. There have been times this year that I've thought they'd be better off without him, but I think they need to honor that committment and give him some more time. I don't know if it will work, but I think they should try it. I don't want them losing another coach too soon like I believe they did with Marty.
It would be nice to bring him back into the fold but it's too late unfortunately. Besides, there's no guarantees regarding how he'll do as a head coach.
Daseal 01-10-2007, 12:46 PM Yeah, thats true. No guarantee, but as we've seen there's no guarantee if you bring a hall of fame coach either.
freddyg12 01-10-2007, 01:02 PM I say let Grimm go off & do a head coaching job elsewhere, get his experience & then maybe in 2 years after Gibbs has finished his contract (or an extra extension year maybe) maybe we'll be in position to hire him, if he's shown he can be a good head coach.
I know GW was the planned successor, but that seems up in the air at this point.
I have a feeling Grimm will be a good head coach, and that in time he could be lured by nostalgia & $$$ to come back to DC as the Boss Hog!
Daseal 01-10-2007, 01:09 PM You can't just hire a head coach away, that's called tampering. If he does a good job, we won't have a shot at him for a long long time.
JoeRedskin 01-10-2007, 01:17 PM In terms of long term stability, what I would love to have is:
a) Russ Grimm, Head Coach
b) Good, experienced GM
c) Team President, Joe Gibbs
No role for DS other than to sign the checks. Personnel decisions being made by the GM and coach with Gibbs being the tie-breaker. Essentially, the same triumvarite system we have now - but cutting out Cerrato and Snyder.
Not likely to happen in my lifetime.
SmootSmack 01-10-2007, 01:27 PM Sometimes I worry though that Russ Grimm will just be another Joe Bugel as head coach.
jsarno 01-10-2007, 01:33 PM I see what you're saying about bringing in Grimm, I think we'd all welcome him with open arms, however Pittsburgh won't let him go, and Grimm wont take a step down to come here. For as much as we would like to think Gibbs would step aside, Snyder would likely step in. Snyder bought Gibbs to come in and rescue a franchise in turmoil...he has since handed away a ton of his duties. I don't think Snyder would appreciate Gibbs being a 5 mil a year cheerleader.
So to sum up, Grimm is not in our radar for this year, and by next year, it will be too late.
So why not get a Darryl Green to coach the CB's?
backrow 01-10-2007, 01:39 PM Grimm anchored the Univ. of Pittsburgh O line along with Mark May, prior to being drafted by the Redskins.
Has helped coach the Steelers for several years, and has consistantly been mentioned as a successor to Cowher.
Who says he wants to come back to the Burgandy and Gold?
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