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cpayne5

01-05-2007, 09:53 AM

Yeah I definitely follow. But the last * is just bad logic.

Our brains may be controlled by the physical world in which we live. And I follow the point that if we see something happen, our brain reacts by learning how it happens. The physics in our brain create a record of what we saw, and the physics in our brain create a synaptic response that tells us, hey, if A = B, and B = C, then A = C.

The one natural course of action, which was guided by physics and mathematical equations, led to the only possibility: our brain creating a synaptic response telling us that A = C.

Now over time, the only course of action physics allows will be that our brains create more and more synaptic responses, telling us that we've figured out more of the physics of the universe.

We are learning. It's just that learning IS the natural course of physics for us humans. And I ask you, what happens when we learn everything?

It's not bad logic. It's you having a varying opinion than me on whether or not in a truly physical world things composed of matter can be intelligent.

IMO, in a completely physical world, everything is guided by it's surroundings based solely on physics. There are no intelligent thoughts or thought processes.

But this is all fruitless as I don't even believe it.

I do not believe we live in a physical world, believe that I walk daily with God, believe things happen for a reason, and believe that it is not stupid for a football player to ride ATVs in the offseason. :D

Last post in this thread for me!

Schneed10

01-05-2007, 10:10 AM

It's not bad logic. It's you having a varying opinion than me on whether or not in a truly physical world things composed of matter can be intelligent.

IMO, in a completely physical world, everything is guided by it's surroundings based solely on physics. There are no intelligent thoughts or thought processes.

But this is all fruitless as I don't even believe it.

I do not believe we live in a physical world, believe that I walk daily with God, believe things happen for a reason, and believe that it is not stupid for a football player to ride ATVs in the offseason. :D

Last post in this thread for me!

Alright well at least you have a cute dog. At least she's cute until she grows into a giant beast!

I'm following the logic. It's just that the physical world contains a certain combinations of chemicals and physical properties that give rise to a human brain capable of thoughts and the ability for a human being to gain knowledge and react to that knowledge. That may be physics doing it, but it gives us the power to kick a ball and put it in motion if we wish. Physics gives us the power to make other physical things happen.

It was a fun discussion because it made me think of the Matrix. Neo could see and change everything. I love that movie.


	Commanders Post at The Warpath > Off-Topic Discussion > Parking Lot > F... "Everything Happens for a Reason" PDA F... "Everything Happens for a Reason" Pages : 1 2 3 4 [5] cpayne5 01-05-2007, 09:53 AM Yeah I definitely follow. But the last * is just bad logic. Our brains may be controlled by the physical world in which we live. And I follow the point that if we see something happen, our brain reacts by learning how it happens. The physics in our brain create a record of what we saw, and the physics in our brain create a synaptic response that tells us, hey, if A = B, and B = C, then A = C. The one natural course of action, which was guided by physics and mathematical equations, led to the only possibility: our brain creating a synaptic response telling us that A = C. Now over time, the only course of action physics allows will be that our brains create more and more synaptic responses, telling us that we've figured out more of the physics of the universe. We are learning. It's just that learning IS the natural course of physics for us humans. And I ask you, what happens when we learn everything? It's not bad logic. It's you having a varying opinion than me on whether or not in a truly physical world things composed of matter can be intelligent. IMO, in a completely physical world, everything is guided by it's surroundings based solely on physics. There are no intelligent thoughts or thought processes. But this is all fruitless as I don't even believe it. I do not believe we live in a physical world, believe that I walk daily with God, believe things happen for a reason, and believe that it is not stupid for a football player to ride ATVs in the offseason. :D Last post in this thread for me! Schneed10 01-05-2007, 10:10 AM It's not bad logic. It's you having a varying opinion than me on whether or not in a truly physical world things composed of matter can be intelligent. IMO, in a completely physical world, everything is guided by it's surroundings based solely on physics. There are no intelligent thoughts or thought processes. But this is all fruitless as I don't even believe it. I do not believe we live in a physical world, believe that I walk daily with God, believe things happen for a reason, and believe that it is not stupid for a football player to ride ATVs in the offseason. :D Last post in this thread for me! Alright well at least you have a cute dog. At least she's cute until she grows into a giant beast! I'm following the logic. It's just that the physical world contains a certain combinations of chemicals and physical properties that give rise to a human brain capable of thoughts and the ability for a human being to gain knowledge and react to that knowledge. That may be physics doing it, but it gives us the power to kick a ball and put it in motion if we wish. Physics gives us the power to make other physical things happen. It was a fun discussion because it made me think of the Matrix. Neo could see and change everything. I love that movie.