Len "Pasta Belly" Pasquarelli: Focus is on passing with more efficiency

Well is McNabb overrated or have his receivers simply sucked. Thrash is a hard worker and a good guy but by no means a no. 1 receiver. And neither are Pinkston or Mitchell. But then I guess to ask the question another way shouldn't the great quarterbacks make their receivers better?

Well is McNabb overrated or have his receivers simply sucked. Thrash is a hard worker and a good guy but by no means a no. 1 receiver. And neither are Pinkston or Mitchell. But then I guess to ask the question another way shouldn't the great quarterbacks make their receivers better?

plus when other qbs have done crappola with practically no talent around them they are considered failures, but somehow it's different for mcnabb just cuz he can run and his teams defense has been better than other teams with crappy qbs and wrs. if the phili's didn't have the defense they've had for the past 4 or 5 years or so, the eagles' record would be vastly different. his career stats just don't match up too his praise.

plus when other qbs have done crappola with practically no talent around them they are considered failures, but somehow it's different for mcnabb just cuz he can run and his teams defense has been better than other teams with crappy qbs and wrs. if the phili's didn't have the defense they've had for the past 4 or 5 years or so, the eagles' record would be vastly different. his career stats just don't match up too his praise.

Uh, last I checked they went to the NFC Championship three times in a row. You can't hold the Philly defense against him, and if the Philly wideouts were in Redskin uniforms we would have held a revolt. Thrash comes to Washington and he's the third or fourth guy, in Philly he was #1 until they brought in TO.

As a Skins fan I hate McNabb, he's averaged like 8 yds per rush on us and always seems to come up with a game breaking play against us. The guy isn't in the Pro Bowl every year because of his Chunky soup commercials, matter of fact he doesn't even get those commercials if he couldn't play. Fact is, he's only been in the league for five years so he's still got time improve.

Manning, McNair, Favre, Brady and maybe Culpepper. Pennington and Green have yet to even reach the conference championship game, and I'm going to assume that throwing Jeff Garcia in this conversation is some kind of joke.

The ultimate judgment is based on wins and losses. Laugh all you want about the Eagles losing three straight NFC championship games, meanwhile our team has a high of 8 wins during that streak. I'll also go ahead and assume that whoever said Ramsey was better than McNabb was joking as well.

Uh, last I checked they went to the NFC Championship three times in a row. You can't hold the Philly defense against him, and if the Philly wideouts were in Redskin uniforms we would have held a revolt. Thrash comes to Washington and he's the third or fourth guy, in Philly he was #1 until they brought in TO.

As a Skins fan I hate McNabb, he's averaged like 8 yds per rush on us and always seems to come up with a game breaking play against us. The guy isn't in the Pro Bowl every year because of his Chunky soup commercials, matter of fact he doesn't even get those commercials if he couldn't play. Fact is, he's only been in the league for five years so he's still got time improve.

Manning, McNair, Favre, Brady and maybe Culpepper. Pennington and Green have yet to even reach the conference championship game, and I'm going to assume that throwing Jeff Garcia in this conversation is some kind of joke.

The ultimate judgment is based on wins and losses. Laugh all you want about the Eagles losing three straight NFC championship games, meanwhile our team has a high of 8 wins during that streak. I'll also go ahead and assume that whoever said Ramsey was better than McNabb was joking as well.


I wrote that and I meant it. F-Mcnabb.

I agree, Memphis. Winning talks, the rest is just numbers. Mcnabb completed a crazy 4th and 26 to beat the pack, and Favre threw a crazy INT.

I'm not saying he's better than Frave, but in the last three years, he's made the hated iggles go. When he was hurt early last year, the iggles faltered. When he got healthy they won a bunch of games.

Hey, I'm all for crushing the guy, but until we do, it's just talk.

i'd put vick up there... he can run, but he can pass too (well, when he's not dead)...
favre has a tendency to just lob the ball up if nothing's happening, and i've seen it bite him more than a couple times... btw anyone else read about his starting streak? since its started, 15 of the stadiums he's played games in aren't even around anymore... kinda crazy.

I agree, Memphis. Winning talks, the rest is just numbers. Mcnabb completed a crazy 4th and 26 to beat the pack, and Favre threw a crazy INT.

anyone watching that game saw that mcnabbs pass was almost as bad as favre's except green bay's defense flubbed up the coverage and played 2 soft. I don't doubt the importance of his leadership to their team, but lets face it, a majority of the eagles victories have been from the play of their defense or special teams.

Manning, McNair, Favre, Brady and maybe Culpepper. Pennington and Green have yet to even reach the conference championship game, and I'm going to assume that throwing Jeff Garcia in this conversation is some kind of joke.

just cuz u might not respect garcia, doesn't dispute his productivity with practically just owens, hearst, and barlow to throw too the past few years.

Is mcnabb good? yeah, but is he one of the top ten qbs in the league just cuz his team wins a lot whether its with his help or not? no, cuz if u make that argument then how come jay fiedler isn't considered an elite qb since he has one of, if not the highest, winning percentages of any active qbs?

1.) Peyton Manning
2.) Brett Favre
3.) Steve McNair
4.) Daunte Coullpepper (SP)
5.) Trent Green
6.) Aaron Brooks
7.) Tom Brady

Not in any special order, but McNabb is NOT on of the top 5 or even top 7 by far...

Well, I would definitely rate McNabb ahead of Green (benefitting from an awesome OL and running game), Brooks (inconsistent, not a winner), and Brady (also with a very strong offensive supporting cast). McNabb has had the worst set of WR's in the league and a so-so running game and OL the last couple years. A lot of people recognize the amazing job he has done in spite of that, and that is why he is recognized in ratings and PRO BOWL selections. And now that he has ONE quality WR on the team, even Football Guys, historically the most accurate fantasy rating site out there, projects him as the #5 scoring QB in 2004. I wonder where they would rate him if he had the Colts or Rams WR's? Since we've got to get past the Eagles to win the division, I am sure glad that their "D" is poised to implode this year without either of their key cornerbacks.

On the other side of the coin, you can argue that the other 4 really DO belong up there, and that Vick should be added.

How would you guys rank the NFC East starting QB's?

1. McNabb
2. Brunell
3. Carter
4. Manning

Sorry but I have to give McNabb his props, 3 straight NFC Championships, he's doing something right, and lord only knows he's single handedly been a huge pain in our butts.

I think it's safe to say that the Eagles and Skins are set in the QB area while the Cowboys and Giants both have some pretty big question marks. In Dallas I wouldn't be surprised to see Vinny take over at some point. QC turns the ball over way too much for Parcells liking. As for the Giants, they had better hope that Warner can regain some of his old form, because if he can't and they have to stick with Manning all year, things will be ugly.

Hogskin may have inadvertently brought up an interesting point. He says that Brady has "a very strong offensive supporting cast" On paper I'd have to disagree. Look at their top 3 receivers Deion Branch (2nd round pick), Troy Brown (8th round pick), David Patten (UDFA).Then you have the Eagles Freddie Mitchell (1st round), Todd Pinkston (early 2nd), and James Thrash (high profile free agent signing)

So do we blame the Eagles front office for these draft picks or should we, while recognizing that McNabb is indeed a very good quarterback, say that maybe some one else could have done a better job with those receivers?