MLB biggest concern on defense

The system is fine, it's the players who are in the system that just don't work anymore.

The biggest problem is that Cornelius Griffin isn't the player he was in '04 and just last year. Ditto for Salave'a. When you have someone wreaking havoc at the defensive tackle position, the linebackers look great.

We need a D-tackle more than anything. And the draft is solid for linemen for the position we'll be drafting in.

Yep, I agree with you Beem. When you have the defensive front stopping the run and putting pressure on the quarterback, then the linebackers are golden and it lifts the entire defense's play. I also agree about the system being fine. If it wasn't, it wouldn't have been the success it was the past couple of years here and the success Gregg Williams has had in previous coaching tenures.

I do believe, however, we are in need of upgrading our secondary.

I know it's crazy talk that I've spouted off before but what about moving Marcus to the middle and Rocky and LeMar to the outside?

(To get really radical move LeMar to safety)

DB is a much bigger concern in my opinion.

Love the use of radical TAF.

Secondary is certainly a problem, but the DBs had nothing to do with Tiki Barber skipping effortlessly through the D-line like he was on the Yellow Brick Road headed for Oz.

As I understand it, for the position we'll be drafting in (#3-#7 in the first round) defensive tackles are by far the better value. DB's are rated much lower in the first.

Secondary is certainly a problem, but the DBs had nothing to do with Tiki Barber skipping effortlessly through the D-line like he was on the Yellow Brick Road headed for Oz.

As I understand it, for the position we'll be drafting in (#3-#7 in the first round) defensive tackles are by far the better value. DB's are rated much lower in the first.

True but they did nothing once Tiki got to their level, the tackling from the secondary was god awful. Not just last night but all season.

I think if they got a Middle Linebacker later on in the draft and went out and signed London Fletcher as a stop gap for a year or two while that guy comes into his own, they'd be fine. He might not be a playmaker like he used to be, but he still gets a ton of tackles. If I'm Gregg Williams, I have the faith that Flet's gonna be in the right place at the right time, he'll be where I expect him to be, and he could mentor some young linebackers like Rocky.

As for D backs, they do need someone so they can do something with Springs. I don't care if it's cutting him, moving him to safety, or down on the depth chart, say to nickel back. He's a good corner, but if you can't rely on the guy to stay on the field, it's time to replace him. I feel the same way about Griffin. He can still play too, but he can't stay on the field...that and he's fallen way off of what he used to be. That was the big knock on him when he got here. He couldn't stay healthy and that's part of the reason he wasn't resigned by the Giants, if my memory serves me correctly.

There are problems all over the place on D. The only thing I'll say is that if we don't address the D-line, running backs will still be in the defensive secondary running free. Even if we get better tackling by the DBs, we still have a huge problem.

True but they did nothing once Tiki got to their level, the tackling from the secondary was god awful. Not just last night but all season.

That's another good point, I don't know what the hell Sean Taylor's problem is. He needs to learn how to take better angles and have someone put pads on him so he can start tackling again. He kinda got exposed some this season. Seems like if he can't lay you out, he can't get you down. He definitely needs to improve on both of those.

That's another good point, I don't know what the hell Sean Taylor's problem is. He needs to learn how to take better angles and have someone put pads on him so he can start tackling again. He kinda got exposed some this season. Seems like if he can't lay you out, he can't get you down. He definitely needs to improve on both of those.

Doesn't it seem like the last few games in particular Taylor is tackling really high and always going for a strip rather than the sure tackle?? Perhaps the D as a whole was just pressing to get turnovers but man, the arm tackling has been outta control especially as of late.