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saden1 12-28-2006, 09:22 PM I totally understand where you are coming from AA. I too hate being lied to. They told us you were a hard hitter, smart, and all around good player. The truth is, you suck. Any moron can play close to the line and play the run. That's basic prerequisite to being a safety. What everyone expected was a Strong Safety. That means someone who can lay the smack down as well as cover the TE. Which in tern means someone who doesn't bite harder than a BDSM mistress on a pump fake and who can keep up with a TE in the 4th qt when your team is leading.
Know that I know that it's not your fault. It's the talent evaluator at Redskins Park's fault.
chrisl4064 12-28-2006, 09:27 PM i dont think anyone who has ever blamed the coaching staff has ever come out and critisized themselves, i.e. lavar, archuleta. it seems everytime a player is not performing all of the sudden its the coaching staff who is not holding thier hand. these are grown ass men who make millions, put up or shut up. you mean to tell me that in the 6 plus years archuleta has been in this league he cannot figure out what is wrong with his game. well its a good thing im here.....
let me see if i can diagnose some propblems for you Adam just so you know what to work on.
1. speed, your slow and you have weak ankles, try a dot drill, i think you can find one at any local high school in the area.
2. tackling, speaks for itself, learn how to do it effectively, you may have been able to blame previous safeties in the past for mistakes but that wont work on sean.
3. coverage, dude this ties in with number 1, your like the kid who lines up in the backyard across from the fast kid who yells "mismatch" with his hand in the air only to run a fly route right past you.
4. blocking, dont think i forgot about your missed blocking assignment about 7 weeks ago when frost got his kicked blocked, that was your man, and it was an obvious botch.
5. special teams, consider this a gift for condidtioning, if you werent making so much money we would have you filling out paperwork. just hope the browns are looking for a safety next year, oh oops must we all forget who they have back there. ifayani ohalette, who i would take in a heartbeat over your sorry ____ (sorry not familiar with forum rules).
6. just go adam, just go away
12thMan 12-28-2006, 09:30 PM AA proved his worth early on: pretty useless. I have no question he doesn't belong on this team, but once again we have a disgruntled player leaving the organization pissed off.
What the hell is with the management of this team that we seem to have more pissed players up and leave or get fired than any other team I'm aware of? Is it just because I follow the Redskins a lot closer than other teams, or does this team genuinely screw people over season after season?
I'm not arguing that AA should play or that he's good, I'm just wondering in general why these situations happen so freakin' often to this team.
Dude, you pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. I mean, we all knew Arch was unhappy and he didn't fit this scheme. I think that's a moot point.
But the bigger question is, why does this seem to be a consistent theme with our staff/management? Why is it that the coaches play the silence game with the media, toe the company line, and all of sudden we have another disgruntled player that is leaving the team. No way in hell it's always the player that's the problem.
Why do I get the impression that Gibbs has no control over this team??
12thMan 12-28-2006, 09:33 PM i dont think anyone who has ever blamed the coaching staff has ever come out and critisized themselves, i.e. lavar, archuleta. it seems everytime a player is not performing all of the sudden its the coaching staff who is not holding thier hand. these are grown ass men who make millions, put up or shut up. you mean to tell me that in the 6 plus years archuleta has been in this league he cannot figure out what is wrong with his game. well its a good thing im here.....
let me see if i can diagnose some propblems for you Adam just so you know what to work on.
1. speed, your slow and you have weak ankles, try a dot drill, i think you can find one at any local high school in the area.
2. tackling, speaks for itself, learn how to do it effectively, you may have been able to blame previous safeties in the past for mistakes but that wont work on sean.
3. coverage, dude this ties in with number 1, your like the kid who lines up in the backyard across from the fast kid who yells "mismatch" with his hand in the air only to run a fly route right past you.
4. blocking, dont think i forgot about your missed blocking assignment about 7 weeks ago when frost got his kicked blocked, that was your man, and it was an obvious botch.
5. special teams, consider this a gift for condidtioning, if you werent making so much money we would have you filling out paperwork. just hope the browns are looking for a safety next year, oh oops must we all forget who they have back there. ifayani ohalette, who i would take in a heartbeat over your sorry ____ (sorry not familiar with forum rules).
6. just go adam, just go away
You're right, man. Adam has some hand in this, but his is on the field primarily. How many pressers have you watched this year, and both Gibbs and Williams will give some bullshit line, he's having a great practice, blah, blah. In fact, prior to the St. Louis game, Williams gave the impression that Arch would be playing some defense.
Bill B 12-28-2006, 09:34 PM I totally understand where you are coming from AA. I too hate being lied to. They told us you were a hard hitter, smart, and all around good player. The truth is, you suck. Any moron can play close to the line and play the run. That's basic prerequisite to being a safety. What everyone expected was a Strong Safety. That means someone who can lay the smack down as well as cover the TE. Which in tern means someone who doesn't bite harder than an BDSM mistress on a pump fake and who can keep up with a TE in the 4th qt when your team is leading.
Know that I know that it's not your fault. It's the talent evaluator at Redskins Park's fault.
Saden - the talent evaluator you are referring to - what that be Cerrato or Gibbs or both?
mheisig 12-28-2006, 09:53 PM Dude, you pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. I mean, we all knew Arch was unhappy and he didn't fit this scheme. I think that's a moot point.
But the bigger question is, why does this seem to be a consistent theme with our staff/management? Why is it that the coaches play the silence game with the media, toe the company line, and all of sudden we have another disgruntled player that is leaving the team. No way in hell it's always the player that's the problem.
Why do I get the impression that Gibbs has no control over this team??
I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the organization as a whole to a certain point. The league is full of arrogant, crybaby players, but there are also plenty of decent guys who are honest, hard working players.
One, two, maybe three disgruntled players and I'd say it's a string of bad luck. This is getting to be a yearly occurrence, however. Every season it's one or two guys who get pissed off and leaving hating the team, season in and season out.
I'm not saying we should be out to make friends - yes, business is business and it can be rough. At a certain point you've got to start wondering if maybe it's not just a string of bad luck or some selfish players...
saden1 12-28-2006, 09:54 PM Saden - the talent evaluator you are referring to - what that be Cerrato or Gibbs or both?
Do I have to choose? Asking me to choose is akin to asking a man to choose which one of his children he would prefer dead.
I choose all of the above including the security guard at the parking lot and the lady that washes player's towels.
GoSkins! 12-28-2006, 10:01 PM It is funny how every guy on this board said about the same thing before the season started... "We overpayed for AA, but there is no question he is an upgrade over Ryan Clark". Hind sight is 20/20. I agree he is bad in coverage, but I don't understand why people bust on his tackling. He is and has always been a good tackler, led the team before being benched (AA didn't miss that tackle against Jackson last week , but Taylor gets a by?)
I still think that AA was brought in to be a hitter if Taylor went to jail, but the coaches expected that they could magically teach him to become a better pass defender if Taylor avoided jail. They couldn't... and here we are.
He was talked into joining the skins, then used wrong, then benched. I am amazed that he has been as silent as he has been throughout this whole thing. Wouldn't anyone else here be pissed? (Personally I could temper my frustration with the 10 million:).)
dgack 12-28-2006, 10:03 PM I don't know, I know I am going to take shit for this but I really don't see the problem with what he said. If he sucked this bad, why did we snap him up and pay him $20 million? It's just a really lame way of handling these kinds of issues.
Coaches always say they want players who never quit. I think this shows what happens when coaches decide to quit on a player rather than work it out like professionals, and then decide what's best in the offseason. You can't tell me that the way the Arch and Lavar situation went down makes guys on the team happier and more confident in the coaching staff. You can't tell me that it wasn't a distraction -- that ESPN "deep throat" article is proof of that.
It's just really, really weird and smacks of some kind of personal thing. Arch Deluxe has certainly not turned out the way we had hoped, but our coaching staff is as guilty if not more guilty here, because we either completely nerfed the scouting report on this guy or we're completely quitting on a player because he isn't up to Ggrilliamss' stratospheric standards (note: sarcasm). And in either case, we have once again made an ugly mess out of what should have been a quiet personnel decision made in the offseason.
Bill B 12-28-2006, 10:08 PM Does this article pretty much mean that Archuletta was indeed the mole and not Springs like many had thought?
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