ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

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wolfeskins
12-29-2006, 03:04 PM
I don't see any evidence that he was told "over and over and over" anything. But I'm sure AA is just flat out lying, and our esteemed, even-tempered, player's coach GGrilliamss is just taking the high road.



uummm....it's called practice.

Bill B
12-29-2006, 03:05 PM
Best theory I've seen offered yet.

JLC's interview/story today on WashPost offers more explanation, though I'm sure 90% of the people in this thread are just going to say "happy trails loser!!111" and discount the whole thing.

The bottom line for Arch is, he feels that he has been blackballed here, and that because of it, his career is going to suffer for it. I know most here would probably relish that thought, but I think it sucks, reflects poorly on our organization, and will come back and bite us in the ass (if this kind of karma hasn't already).

The article also adds further validation to my earlier claim that the current players on the team are quite aware of how Arch is getting screwed and aren't really happy with it, either.

This is NOT how you run a class organization.

But if this is the case why would Dockery want to resign with the Skins Why did Betts resign with the Skins? I know the easy answer is big money - is that the only answer?

wolfeskins
12-29-2006, 03:09 PM
But if this is the case why would Dockery want to resign with the Skins Why did Betts resign with the Skins? I know the easy answer is big money - is that the only answer?



AA is just pissed off because he chose the skins over the bears. he really wanted to play for lovi smith but chose washington for the money. now he's not playing because he's not preforming well, so he's just fireing off at the mouth out of frustration.

dgack
12-29-2006, 03:14 PM
uummm....it's called practice.

If that's the case, you'd certainly have anonymously-attributed quotes from other players, saying "look, while it sucks what's happening to Adam, the fact is he had horrible practices and he had every chance to make things right".

Also, aren't at least some of the practice sessions open to the press? You mean to tell me that all this berating of the highest paid safety in NFL history happened, but NOBODY saw it, or is willing to say they saw it?

dgack
12-29-2006, 03:18 PM
But if this is the case why would Dockery want to resign with the Skins Why did Betts resign with the Skins? I know the easy answer is big money - is that the only answer?

Seems pretty clear to me -- Betts and Dock are offensive players who have been part of the lone bright spot this season (the running game), while Arch is a player on the defense responsible for the biggest year-to-year defensive collapse in Redskins history.

Plus, Saunders just seems like a more reasonable, even-keeled guy, whereas GGrilliamss has a rep for being a hardass and a jerk everywhere he's been, and I'm willing to bet Joe is much more involved with the guys on offense than on defense.

You can see from Adam's statements that he's clearly making a point of saying he got a "10 minute talk with Coach Gibbs" and he "appreciated that", which says to me he neither wants to offend Gibbs nor blames him directly for what's gone down.

wolfeskins
12-29-2006, 03:25 PM
If that's the case, you'd certainly have anonymously-attributed quotes from other players, saying "look, while it sucks what's happening to Adam, the fact is he had horrible practices and he had every chance to make things right".

Also, aren't at least some of the practice sessions open to the press? You mean to tell me that all this berating of the highest paid safety in NFL history happened, but NOBODY saw it, or is willing to say they saw it?

it's the exact same thing that happened with lavar. lavar was constantly out of position and missing his assignments, i would imagine AA is having trouble with those very same things. if your not preforming well in practice then your not going to play on sunday.

players are not going to discuss other players lack of skill or lack of grasping the scheme to the media. they didn't do it with lavar and they wont do it with AA.

wilsowilso
12-29-2006, 03:30 PM
players are not going to discuss other players lack of skill or lack of grasping the scheme to the media. they didn't do it with lavar and they wont do it with AA.

Just ask Carlos what he thinks? Also I know of at least one player Springs who spoke to the media about Lavar having little to no grasp of the defensive scheme and gameplan.

dgack
12-29-2006, 03:32 PM
it's the exact same thing that happened with lavar. lavar was constantly out of position and missing his assignments, i would imagine AA is having trouble with those very same things. if your not preforming well in practice then your not going to play on sunday.

players are not going to discuss other players lack of skill or lack of grasping the scheme to the media. they didn't do it with lavar and they wont do it with AA.

Okay, I agree with that on principle I guess, though Lavar was seen as a leader of this team and a huge part of this franchise, so badmouthing him would not be something that guys would do, but with Archuleta being a new signing and everyone knowing how it's gone down, I don't think it's the same situation.

Plus you've got this quote from an unnamed source sympathizing with Adam, saying what happened to him "isn't fair". Not that "it's unfortunate", which would imply it was his lack of skill or ability to follow directions, but "it's unfair" which seems to put blame at the feet of the coaching staff.

wolfeskins
12-29-2006, 03:37 PM
Just ask Carlos what he thinks? Also I know of at least one player Springs who spoke to the media about Lavar having little to no grasp of the defensive scheme and gameplan.


carlos was talking about the possibility of springs return, he also didn't say anything that springs had not already said to the media.

i do vagely(sp) remember springs commenting on lavar. not sure if it was during the season or after lavar was gone. if it was during the season then springs was going against the grain, most nfl players don't talk publicly about their teammates faults.

wolfeskins
12-29-2006, 03:42 PM
Okay, I agree with that on principle I guess, though Lavar was seen as a leader of this team and a huge part of this franchise, so badmouthing him would not be something that guys would do, but with Archuleta being a new signing and everyone knowing how it's gone down, I don't think it's the same situation.

Plus you've got this quote from an unnamed source sympathizing with Adam, saying what happened to him "isn't fair". Not that "it's unfortunate", which would imply it was his lack of skill or ability to follow directions, but "it's unfair" which seems to put blame at the feet of the coaching staff.


whats considered "fair" to one player might be considered "unfair" to another.

i think all of us are making to much out of this. AA feels that he needs an explanation as to why he's not playing. the redskins feel like AA should know that he has not played well and therefore has been replaced.

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