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riggoraider 12-24-2006, 10:51 PM Probably not top 5, but definitely top 10. We need a good defensive player for sure!
ONE good defensive player is not going to help our defense. I think that we should work on the defense via trades or free agency. Picking a defensive player high in the draft is too big of a gamble and we have no room to gamble.
We should sure up the offense with the one good pick that we have in the draft by getting a possession receiver because Campbell will be needing all the help that he can get next year.
12thMan 12-24-2006, 11:02 PM ONE good defensive player is not going to help our defense. I think that we should work on the defense via trades or free agency. Picking a defensive player high in the draft is too big of a gamble and we have no room to gamble.
We should sure up the offense with the one good pick that we have in the draft by getting a possession receiver because Campbell will be needing all the help that he can get next year.
I disagree, I don't think we need any more receivers. The offseason will do Jason good to work with what he has. People still don't realize that Campbell, unlike the majority of young QBs now leading their teams, basically jumped from being inactive to starting. In other words, the chemistry he has developed with the receiveres to date, has been on the fly and not necessarily a result of practicing with the first team.
As promising as Jason looks, wait until next year.
riggoraider 12-25-2006, 05:01 AM I disagree, I don't think we need any more receivers. The offseason will do Jason good to work with what he has. People still don't realize that Campbell, unlike the majority of young QBs now leading their teams, basically jumped from being inactive to starting. In other words, the chemistry he has developed with the receiveres to date, has been on the fly and not necessarily a result of practicing with the first team.
As promising as Jason looks, wait until next year.
There is nothing wrong with disagreeing and I disagree with you
Jason was inactive for game play NOT practice. He actually practiced with the first string when Brunell's arm was cut and he practiced every practice this year, several with the first team.
Chemistry is NOT there when you complete only 3 passes for 27 yard to only 1 wide-out for a entire game and will not cut in the NFL
onlydarksets 12-25-2006, 06:20 AM There is nothing wrong with disagreeing and I disagree with you
It's refreshing to hear someone say that instead of getting personal. Welcome to the board!
Jason was inactive for game play NOT practice. He actually practiced with the first string when Brunell's arm was cut and he practiced every practice this year, several with the first team.
Prior to starting, he had a total of about 10 practices with the 1st stringers. It takes weeks for a seasoned QB to develop chemistry with a new WR. It could take months for a new QB who is also learning a very complex offensive system. I think we generally have the talent at WR, although I wouldn't mind seeing us take a late-round gamble on a big, possession-type receiver.
Chemistry is NOT there when you complete only 3 passes for 27 yard to only 1 wide-out for a entire game and will not cut in the NFL
I agree, but I come to a different conclusion, which is that the chemistry can exist, but it's going to take some time, even into next year. I don't think we need changes at WR necessarily.
dmek25 12-25-2006, 08:19 AM i dont understand why people keep wanting to make springs a safety. he is our best corner, when he plays. so if you make him a safety, then we need ANOTHER corner. i am not completely sold on carlos rogers. he has alot of maturing to do
riggoraider 12-26-2006, 02:36 PM It's refreshing to hear someone say that instead of getting personal. Welcome to the board!
Prior to starting, he had a total of about 10 practices with the 1st stringers. It takes weeks for a seasoned QB to develop chemistry with a new WR. It could take months for a new QB who is also learning a very complex offensive system. I think we generally have the talent at WR, although I wouldn't mind seeing us take a late-round gamble on a big, possession-type receiver.
I agree, but I come to a different conclusion, which is that the chemistry can exist, but it's going to take some time, even into next year. I don't think we need changes at WR necessarily.
Thanks for the welcome
I think, and I hope that I wrong, that Campbell's abilities surprised some people in his first couple of games but after having actual game tapes of him. The Rams figured something out and put the clamps on our small receivers. THAT is where a intermediate receiver would come into play and I would rather have someone besides our tight end being that receiver.
The Redkins had the perfect receiver mix with "the smurfs" for speed and Art Monk for the 10-20 yard range catches and Clint Didier as a receiving tight end. We already have the tight end and "the smurfs" now we need a big receiver to finish the what can be a good receiver tandem. A good intermediate game will open up our deep passes and I guarantee you that it would make Lloyd a more valuable asset to our passing game also.
Schneed10 12-27-2006, 12:12 AM We're guaranteed to have a top 10 pick.
The Lions and Raiders will definitely be ahead of us, no matter what happens this week.
The Browns and Bucs are both 4-11, one game worse than us. If they win and we lose in the final week, we'd get into the tiebreakers to decide draft order.
If the season ended today, it we'd use tiebreakers to determine who picks 5th - 7th between us, the Texans, and the Cards.
There are 3 teams behind us, the Dolphins 49ers and Vikings at 6-9. If we win and they lose in the final week, we'd get into a tiebreaker.
Bottom line, we can't draft lower than 10th, and we can't draft higher than 3rd. We'll end up anywhere in between based on what happens in the final week.
dgack 12-27-2006, 12:16 AM i dont understand why people keep wanting to make springs a safety. he is our best corner, when he plays. so if you make him a safety, then we need ANOTHER corner. i am not completely sold on carlos rogers. he has alot of maturing to do
I'd like to make Springs unemployed. I'm sorry, but that guy is allergic to contact. He can't stay healthy, and we need an anchor. Hate to bring up the Champ comparisons, but for chrissakes, Champ was playing last year with his shoulder in a frickin' sling for a game or two. Springs shatters when he's looked at aggressively by the other team.
FRPLG 12-27-2006, 01:26 AM Springs is our only corner who can play so basically you'd cut the guy that makes our defense work based on the results of this season. I think we keep Springs but look to add another #2 type who could handle the top spot adequately if Springs goes down. I can't help but think that Rogers has to get better next year too.
The Huddle 12-27-2006, 01:48 AM Given our history and the questionable personel decsions of the last few years, I'd just as soon see the Skins trade down for a whole mess off middle to late round picks. I'm not buying the idea that any one player on either side of the ball is going to fix what ails this team.
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