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GiantsSuck703 12-24-2006, 05:54 PM Never once have I not acknowledged that the D didn't help blow that game. However, the offense got the football with a chance to win and then Ladell Betts put the Skins in a position to lose the football game. "If the d made a stop..." Ever hear of momentum. Kind of a big deal in football...especially for a home team. You kinda get it when you should have lost, but somehow came up with a gift fumble from the supposed superstar running back. That helps you win a game. Especially when there are about 2 mins left.
Why are you acting like Ladell fumbled and gave the rams great field position, they went down the field like it was practice, the D gave the game away, plain and simple.
jdlea 12-24-2006, 05:59 PM Hes a goddamn back up, hes paid like a backup, how many times has he fumbled since hes been the primary back?
Oh...that makes it okay? He has less chance to fumble and still becomes the second most prominent fumbler in the NFL, but who gives a shit if he fumbles all the time...
5 times he has fumbled as the primary back this season!
Gmanc711 12-24-2006, 05:59 PM Why are you acting like Ladell fumbled and gave the rams great field position, they went down the field like it was practice, the D gave the game away, plain and simple.
If he dosent fumlbe, we can run out the clock, kick a feild goal , and enjoy christmas. No one is letting the D off the hook, but you cant give that fumble up. PLAIN AND SIMPLE>
Gmanc711 12-24-2006, 06:00 PM Oh...that makes it okay? He has less chance to fumble and still becomes the second most prominent fumbler in the NFL, but who gives a shit if he fumbles all the time...
5 times he has fumbled as the primary back this season!
EXACTLY.
HES IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAUGE. He's not a backup on a JV High School Team. If its ok for our backups to turn the ball over, than we mine as well not even watch the skins on sundays.
jdlea 12-24-2006, 06:02 PM Why are you acting like Ladell fumbled and gave the rams great field position, they went down the field like it was practice, the D gave the game away, plain and simple.
Why are you acting like I said stuff I never came close to implying? Do you understand what momentum can do for a football team? Especially at home? And my football knowledge is weak even though I've done nothing but quote stats while you just say "the D sucks..." No shit, I've agreed with that statement over and over and fuckin over again! Yes, they're terrible, but you get a chance to win and then blow that chance on a fumble that pee wee football players are taught to protect against and he's not at fault by any stretch? I've acknowledged the D should have gotten a stop, however, it's pretty damn difficult to stop an offense like St. Louis's at home, with the crowd behind them because they have the football when they should have just lost the game...do you not agree?
skinsguy 12-24-2006, 07:12 PM And if Betts could have *held on* to his end of the bargain, we win.
Not necessarily. The Rams were moving on us at will after Springs went out.
skinsguy 12-24-2006, 07:17 PM If he dosent fumlbe, we can run out the clock, kick a feild goal , and enjoy christmas. No one is letting the D off the hook, but you cant give that fumble up. PLAIN AND SIMPLE>
I agree that we can't be giving up fumbles, but none of this should really be debatable considering the fact that we were up about two touchdowns in the third quarter.
Our weak secondary is what really let us down. Even with the fumble, we had opportunities but couldn't convert.
wolfeskins 12-24-2006, 08:22 PM the fumble by betts was huge. i'm not sure i can say it lost the game. it's kind of a weird situation, i mean, the defense is so piss poor that the offensive players need to play a perfect game. just like the game two weeks ago against the eagles, if campbell does'nt throw those picks, then the skins win. if betts does'nt fumble, the skins probably win but if the defense was anywhere close to obove average, the skins win both of those games regardless of the turnovers.
ncskinsfanec 12-24-2006, 10:13 PM We'd be in the playoffs if the Defense was at least half way decent. Frustrating season, but I think things are still headed in the right direction.
jdlea 12-24-2006, 10:42 PM the fumble by betts was huge. i'm not sure i can say it lost the game. it's kind of a weird situation, i mean, the defense is so piss poor that the offensive players need to play a perfect game. just like the game two weeks ago against the eagles, if campbell does'nt throw those picks, then the skins win. if betts does'nt fumble, the skins probably win but if the defense was anywhere close to obove average, the skins win both of those games regardless of the turnovers.
That's a point I agree with 100%. However, I would assert that you know that the D is bad, so why wouldn't you play as close to perfect as possible? You know the D can't pick you up. Also, the D got you the football with a chance to win the ballgame and you proceeded to give them the ball right back. That's what gets me about this one. Everyone blames the D, it's hard to get a stop after they feel as though they've snatched victory from the jaws of defeat.
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