Redskins-Rams: Postgame Thoughts

I'm surprised to see all the Betts bashing earlier in this thread. Betts did more than any other player on the team to put the team into a position to win the game. Sure, the fumble hurt, but the Redskins had a chance to overcome it at they couldn't.

Until Campbell matures further, the Redskins offense will remain one dimensional. The Rams did just enough choking up on the Redskins running game in the second half to force Campbell to make a few plays, and he couldn't deliver. No big surprise there.

The secondary remains the same dubious proposition it was on opening day. Even with Springs in there it's not an impressive unit (not to be confused with having impressive athletes); without him it's nothing.

You sound like a guy who was waiting on Betts to mess up so that your argument for Portis would stand up. Betts is an outstanding rusher who got the ball stripped away....point blank...it happens.

Clinton has not brung a superbowl to Washington himself

No, I wish they had won the football game. I would be highly critical of Clinton had he fumbled that football. And I don't need one football game to make my Portis argument stand up. I can point to a lot of other things, but I've already done that ad nauseum and won't be doing it again. Betts is a good back, but he's not on Clinton's level. I'll take Clinton 7 days a week over Betts. If you disagree, that's fine...I really couldn't care less anymore.

No, I wish they had won the football game. I would be highly critical of Clinton had he fumbled that football. And I don't need one football game to make my Portis argument stand up. I can point to a lot of other things, but I've already done that ad nauseum and won't be doing it again. Betts is a good back, but he's not on Clinton's level. I'll take Clinton 7 days a week over Betts. If you disagree, that's fine...I really couldn't care less anymore.

Portis is a good back also and I hope that next year, when he comes back, that he continues what Betts has been doing lately seeing that he is going to be the starter and all.

Does anyone remember when S. Davis used to fumble at terrible times? He got real bad at holding onto the ball down on the 1 yard line it seemed. Betts kind of remindes me of him in that respect.

God I remember the fumble against dallas :(

We could have won this game about 7 or 8 different times, and Betts is responsible for costing us exactly ONE of those oppertunities. So he deserves about 12.5% of the blame for this loss (I just made all those figures up, but I have to assume through observation that they are somewhat close to accurate).

I don't buy the fact that a fumble at that point in the game is significantly more costly than any other part of the game. Yeah, it changes the entire complexity of the game at that point, but wouldn't it be just as costly at any other point. We had 31 points, would have been in FG range, and we fumbled it away. No matter what part of the game it occurs in, it costs us a high pct. shot at atleast 3 points. We just remember it because it was a high pressure situation.

Probably was the most inexcusible of all the mistakes, maybe 2nd to ST's complete...I don't even know what to call it...on Jackson's long TD reception, but that doesn't make it our only fatal flaw.

Betts is showing that he can be a great backup/relief pitcher when healthy. He is no Portis, though, and I, respectfully, believe that some of the "Betts is better than/equal to Portis" arguments are silly given everything we know about both players.This season, Betts has done better with his oppertunities (although it's splitting hairs). But what gets lost on some is that Portis was badly injured from the first drive this year on. That's why his relative effectiveness was down. Not because Betts is better for the system, and not because of some crazy Brunell theroy.

Next year, we will have him healthy (god willing), and he will be even better than Betts this year. More importantly, he will have fresh legs, something he didn't have this year after getting 350+ touches last year.

It's pretty sad that Betts has drawn as much critizism as he has. He is our backup RB and has done a heck of a job this season. One mistake and everyone jumps on him.

I don't remember seeing any posts lasts week bashing his tendancy to fumble. Yes, it was a mistake and yes he fumbles more than CP. The D is to blame today guys. Get off of Betts.

It's pretty sad that Betts has drawn as much critizism as he has. He is our backup RB and has done a heck of a job this season. One mistake and everyone jumps on him.

I don't remember seeing any posts lasts week bashing his tendancy to fumble. Yes, it was a mistake and yes he fumbles more than CP. The D is to blame today guys. Get off of Betts.

I agree with you some of these guys act if though Betts is a part of a different team.

God I remember the fumble against dallas :(

I remember the Arizona game, I think Aenias Williams picked it up and ran it back for like 99 yards. Also, didn't he fumble versus Carolina on the goal line. Controversal call.

I think somewhere "The Man" has a FUMBLE button that he can press whenever the Skins are close to winning a game which may lead to a successfule season.

Does anyone remember when S. Davis used to fumble at terrible times? He got real bad at holding onto the ball down on the 1 yard line it seemed. Betts kind of remindes me of him in that respect.

Were you a member of this site, then? People around here acted like they wanted Stephen cut after that play. I remember how "overrated" he suddenly became. Trust me, the anger towards a guy who fumbled late in a game isn't new. A lot of us have never been particularly tolerant of it, myself included. No matter how much I liked Stephen Davis, I was really pissed. I never said he should be (and I never said that about Betts either) but it certainly irritates the hell out of me when a guy fumbles away a chance to win a football game. If it doesn't happen, the Skins win the football game...I don't take well to losing, especially not in a situation like that.