Has the league figured out the cover 2?

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MTK
12-22-2006, 01:22 PM
Interesting article in the Post today:

Williams: Offenses Have Uncovered the Cover-2 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/21/AR2006122101553.html)
December 22
Washington Post: "Williams, the Washington Redskins' assistant head coach-defense, isn't exactly sure of it, but he believes the high number of big plays executed in the middle of the field, between the linebackers and safeties, may represent an important but disturbing trend: After years of confused quarterbacks being forced into mistakes, offenses may have caught up to and figured out vulnerabilities in the cover-2 zone defense, and its Tampa-2 variation, made popular by Tampa Bay defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin."

freddyg12
12-22-2006, 01:27 PM
This is the first year I can recall anyone saying that GW runs a lot of cover 2. Even this year, it still seemed that often there was a lot of man coverage from the strong safety, i.e. AA.
The positive of this article is that GW realizes that scheme had something to do w/the D's troubles this year & he's just the man to study it & come up w/some new stuff for 07.

Citizens for 81
12-22-2006, 01:43 PM
I read this article earlier this morning. Interesting take by Williams.

I'm a big GW fan, but I couldn't help but think that this sounded like someone making excuses.

I give him credit for his apparent humility he displayed and his willingness to change things up.

I also feel this "soft middle" talk has come out this week because Marshall gave up a few plays over the middle last week.

BDBohnzie
12-22-2006, 01:45 PM
Interesting read. Could also be why the Bucs are struggling on D as well this year...but I hope G-Dub gets his act together and provides the next gen in NFL Defenses.

MTK
12-22-2006, 01:48 PM
If this wasn't happening elsewhere we could write this off as an excuse, but Williams has never been much of an excuse kinda guy and the fact other teams are struggling with the same thing makes this a valid question, has the league caught up with the cover 2?

The league is always evolving, remember back in the 90's the zone blitz was a big deal and it was made famous by the Steelers. Now you don't hear about it as much. Teams are still running it, but offenses have adjusted and caught up with it.

Schneed10
12-22-2006, 01:48 PM
I read this article earlier this morning. Interesting take by Williams.

I'm a big GW fan, but I couldn't help but think that this sounded like someone making excuses.

I give him credit for his apparent humility he displayed and his willingness to change things up.

I also feel this "soft middle" talk has come out this week because Marshall gave up a few plays over the middle last week.

I think that's a misinterpretation on your part, at no point does it sound like an excuse to me. He realizes that it's his job to stay ahead of the offense. It just seems like he's analyzing and explaining what has happened to the D.

I'm just glad to hear detailed thoughts out of the coaching staff. Gibbs can be frustrating because he just coach-speaks all the time, never offers any football thought. I know he's good at analyzing stuff, but we don't get a glimpse of what he's thinking. This article on GW shows that he thinks he's found the problem. That puts him one step closer to figuring out what to do about it.

Longtimefan
12-22-2006, 02:41 PM
I think that's a misinterpretation on your part, at no point does it sound like an excuse to me. He realizes that it's his job to stay ahead of the offense. It just seems like he's analyzing and explaining what has happened to the D.

I'm just glad to hear detailed thoughts out of the coaching staff. Gibbs can be frustrating because he just coach-speaks all the time, never offers any football thought. I know he's good at analyzing stuff, but we don't get a glimpse of what he's thinking. This article on GW shows that he thinks he's found the problem. That puts him one step closer to figuring out what to do about it.


Excellent point......GW also realizes by this being a copy cat league, everyone will continue to exploit your weaknesses until you find a remedy. It shows he's well aware of what's happening to his defense, and why. What's going to be interesting is what changes he's going to make in cover 2 to help make the center of the field less inviting to oposing offense's. He further intend's to solicit input from other DC's around the league in an atempt assist in his evaluation.

Bill B
12-22-2006, 03:02 PM
Does this mean the Skins will be implementing a new scheme? I would hope that this means a few wrinkles - I'd like to see the team just try to minimize as many changes to playersl/coaches/schemes as possible and build some continuity.

Also maybe bringing in a DL in the draft and hoping for starters to come back full time the Defense can return to form in GW's first 2 years.

freddyg12
12-22-2006, 03:07 PM
I really don't think we played as much cover 2 zone in 04 & 05 as we did this year. Rogers gave serious cushion & Springs often did too once he got in the lineup. QB pressure can make an avg. secondary look pretty damn good, and we had little to none for most of the year. I think GW knows that if he can get pressure like we did last week vs. NO w/the front 4, he can scheme this D back to the top 10.

Schneed10
12-22-2006, 04:49 PM
Does this mean the Skins will be implementing a new scheme? I would hope that this means a few wrinkles - I'd like to see the team just try to minimize as many changes to playersl/coaches/schemes as possible and build some continuity.

Also maybe bringing in a DL in the draft and hoping for starters to come back full time the Defense can return to form in GW's first 2 years.

I think it means GW will tweak his current scheme a bit, but it's definitely not an overhaul by any means.

GW needs to dig into the game tape and see if it really is the cover 2 scheme that's the problem across the league, or if the problem is just the poor safety play. Here in DC, teams have been attacking the middle of our defense mainly because Archuleta was there and couldn't cover Britney's crotch. For us it's probably partly the scheme, but I think more than anything it was just Archuleta sucking.

If it were me running the D, I'd tweak the cover 2 just a bit. The WR in the slot is generally the guy you want to attack a cover 2 with because he typically gets matched up with a middle LB while the two safeties retreat into a zone to defend against the 2 WRs on the outside. The LB usually can't run with the slot WR, and voila, you're attacking down the seam of a cover 2. But you know how basketball defenses run a box-and-one, putting their best defender man to man against the offense's most dangerous scoring threat? If I saw a 3 WR set I'd roll in a 5th DB on any down. I'd take my absolute best corner and put him man to man on the slot WR. I'd then leave the safeties and 2 outside CBs to play the traditional cover 2. Heck, that 5th DB would be put to good use when you consider the guy who'll be coming off the field: WARRICK HOLDMAN.

That's a lot of DBs on the field with their primary concern being the defense of the 3 WRs. To make that work, you need an excellent run stopping defensive line. You'll only have 2 LBs on the field, so you better have four D lineman who really eat up blockers that allow your two LBs to flow to the ball to shut down the running game when they run from the 3 WR formation. Give me Alan Branch and it could be done.

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