Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl

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12thMan
12-20-2006, 10:21 AM
Ooop...wrong thread.

Please delete.

GhettoDogAllStars
12-20-2006, 10:27 AM
I just don't think half a season justifies a pro bowl selection, unless the stats are through the roof -- which Romo's aren't. Not to mention, Vick's passing stats would be better if his receivers could catch.

However, the big thing that stand out in my mind is: Vick will be the first QB to rush for over 1000 yards in a season, and he won't even make the pro bowl (with above average passing numbers). :confused:

redsk1
12-20-2006, 10:28 AM
I think Samuels deserves it. He' s had a good year. Most of us watch every single game and play. We're going to notice if he gets beat occasionally. Everybody gets beat occasionally. We should be grateful to have him.

SmootSmack
12-20-2006, 10:32 AM
Did Tony Romo beat the Saints? No. Did Jason Campbell beat the Saints? Yes.

We wuz robbed!!!!

Seriously though, is there a rule that says 3 QBs have to be picked? Couldn't they have just taken Brees and Bulger and used that 3rd QB position on another position instead? Because there aren't really three deserving NFC QBs this year

MTK
12-20-2006, 10:34 AM
Haha. Good argument.

From NFL.com

-Passing-
Romo: 183 of 276 for 2440 yards and 16 TDs with 10 INTs (98.4)
Vick: 187 of 354 for 2284 yards and 19 TDs with 11 INTs (77.9)

-Rushing-
Romo: 44 yards on 27 carries with no TDs
Vick: 990 yards on 116 carries with 2 TDs

I'd argue that both have been impact players for their teams, and have been major contributors to winning. However, Vick has started all 14 games, and Romo has only started in 8.

Judging by passing numbers alone, I'd probably send Romo. But, when you consider that Vick will have over 1000 yards rushing, it's a no-brainer. How can you discount the rushing yards?

What about Vick's pathetic 52.8 completion percentage? He has just 2284 passing yards (163 per game), and then there's that very mediocre QB rating. He has the rushing yards, but that only goes to prove how one dimensional he is as a QB. He didn't deserve to get in last year and he certainly doesn't deserve it this year. Romo has more yards passing in 6 less starts and is only 3 TDs behind him!

Believe me I'm not a huge fan of Romo getting in based on just 8 starts, but it just goes to show how weak the NFC is regarding QBs this year. If McNabb hadn't gone down he would have been a lock.

MTK
12-20-2006, 10:36 AM
I just don't think half a season justifies a pro bowl selection, unless the stats are through the roof -- which Romo's aren't.

His stats are through the roof though, project them out to a full season he would have over 4000 yards and over 30 TDs.

TheMalcolmConnection
12-20-2006, 10:38 AM
Sure, but that's what you HAVE to do though. You have to see stats throughout a full season. The rest of NFL QBs have to go through their respective ups and downs throughout the season, why should he be any different? If you looked at Rex Grossman's projected stats throughout the first four or five games, it would look pretty similar.

GhettoDogAllStars
12-20-2006, 10:40 AM
What about Vick's pathetic 52.8 completion percentage? He has just 2284 passing yards (163 per game), and then there's that very mediocre QB rating. He has the rushing yards, but that only goes to prove how one dimensional he is as a QB. He didn't deserve to get in last year and he certainly doesn't deserve it this year. Romo has more yards passing in 6 less starts and is only 3 TDs behind him!

Believe me I'm not a huge fan of Romo getting in based on just 8 starts, but it just goes to show how weak the NFC is regarding QBs this year. If McNabb hadn't gone down he would have been a lock.

You're right. There'd be no argument if McNabb were healthy.

As for Vick's completion percentage, his receivers drop more passes than any other team. Can you blame Vick? I think if Vick had Owens and Glenn his passing numbers would be better.

The one dimension argument doesn't work very well, if you consider that Romo is also one dimensional -- just in the opposite manner.

Yeah, Vick didn't deserve to go last year, and Romo doesn't deserve to go this year. Why make the same mistake twice?

MTK
12-20-2006, 10:47 AM
The thing is Romo's one dimension is much more desirable and valuable than Vick's one dimension. When was the last scrambling QB to win the big one?

D'BOYZ
12-20-2006, 11:06 AM
Garcia has better stats over the last 4 games, why not let him in? Point is, Homo has played 9 games out of 14. That's not enough, IMO, to make the Pro Bowl.

Not to mention he's had a couple of bad games recently.

Ok so 9 games ain't enough but 4 are? and man if Garcia would had played 9 games there would be some bad games there they all have.

Really which QB in the NFC with 16 games other than Brees has played better than Romo.

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