What the current front office does not do is somehing I wish someone at Redskin Park would be able to pull off was the trade Casserly made with Mike Ditka when we got all the draft picks from the Saints - absolute steal.
A trade like that would only happen again is if Ditka came back to coach.
Nobody is that crazy to give away so much, that one fell into our laps.
Bill B
12-19-2006, 03:15 PM
A trade like that would only happen again is if Ditka came back to coach.
Nobody is that crazy to give away so much, that one fell into our laps.
You have to give Casserly some props for making that happen though.
freddyg12
12-19-2006, 03:18 PM
Casserly can be pegged w/some bad picks, as most gm's can. Shuler was not a bad pick, he just didn't turn out to be the player we'd hoped, there's a big difference. You can only draft guys based on their past & their potential. Shuler had big upsides w/both, w/no history of off field problems. That he didn't become a solid pro qb is for many reasons, but I bet the vast majority of GMs at the time had him rated high. Same w/Desmond Howard, good guy, good teamate, never became a star (except his SB MVP).
I would go so far as to say that Norv screwed up Shuler's confidence by opting for Frerotte, when in that preseason they were neck and neck. Shuler had a lot more upside.
Bad draft picks & personel decisions happen when teams take players that have a history they DIDN'T find out about, whether it's a bad knee or rap sheet.
Bill B
12-19-2006, 03:30 PM
Bill B. = Casserly.
You figured it out!
Actually I am not saying get Casserly tommorow - I just prefer the team hire a competent GM with a good long term vision of building through the draft and picking up a good free agent or two to compliment the mix.
I think you would agree like most on the board that Vinny Cerrato is not that person as he left the 49ers in shambles and his track record here is not something to brag about.
How many teams in the NFL would bring in Vinny Cerrato as their main personelle man? Maybe the Lions as Matt Millen is awful. Other than that I thnk most teams would take a pass on him and tell Cerrato he can get his online gig at ESPN he used to have.
firstdown
12-19-2006, 03:34 PM
I just read this too, good post. I don't see him comin back, but this article shows how our front office lacks contacts & networking w/in the league, IMO, and CC at least did a good job of finding out about players. If he were here we wouldn't have signed AA.
Please explain what you mean, how it shows our FO lack of contacts and networking. That makes no sense. How do you know that he would not have done the AA deal if he was here? Did you speak with him? He was mainly fired from Houston which has won even less games than us over the years so what says he could even help us if not maybe hurt us?
TheMalcolmConnection
12-19-2006, 03:34 PM
I would totally keep Vinny out of this. Don't the coaches make all the personnel decisions? Everyone is always, "GM! WE NEED A GM!!!!!!!" So we almost struck out in our FA acquisitions this year, so what? Overall, Gibbs and staff have made overwhelmingly positive decisions with regard to the draft and free agency. Sure we let Pierce and Smoot go, but would a GM have prevented that from happening? I think our talent evaluation is fine save for the Archuleta signing.
EEich
12-19-2006, 03:45 PM
I'd blame that on Norv.
It was a lose/lose that year anyway, it was either Shuler or Dilfer.
Dilfer won the Superbowl... or at least he didn't lose it.
The only thing Shuler won was a congressional seat (complete failure :)).
Did not Charlie spearhead the effort to draft Mario Williams, and pass up Vince Young, Reggie Bush, and Matt Leinart?
TheMalcolmConnection
12-19-2006, 03:47 PM
To his credit, it could be said that they didn't need a QB or RB, but then the season starts, Carr tanks and Davis gets hurt. Who woulda' seen that coming?