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I cannot believe I am saying "I can't wait til' next season" but........what the hell!
I am always puzzled in a situation like this, as it is not unique, like, where has this been all season?? O-line, shut down D, etc???
TheMalcolmConnection 12-18-2006, 12:01 PM You're my boy Carlos!
redsk1 12-18-2006, 12:40 PM We're racking up the yardage which is a good sign, now the points need to follow. I think a lot of that is due to Campbell's inexperience and it really limits what we try to do in the redzone as a result.
It seems like especially yesterday, that we tend to get more conservative when in the red zone. Do you think Joe plays more of a role once in the red zone? You are right i think they were trying to limit JC's mistakes yesterday and called mostly runs. I'm sure it was part of the game plan although they threw deep often in the middle of the field, so go figure.
SouperMeister 12-18-2006, 01:46 PM This offense shows signs of being high powered. I like the combination of power and misdirection running with a downfield passing attack. There is definitely room for improvement but I do see positive signs that the improvement is happening. The redzone execution is a problem. It seems as though the team gets in the redzone and forgets how they marched down the field. The illegal procedure penalties are killing the team. Got to stop it. I would like to see Campbell accuracy to improve. At times he makes beautiful throws, like that touchdown pass to Moss. At other times, his passes are too short or sails over the receiver. I want to see more consistency.
With Brunell, teams never had to defend more than 20 yards downfield since he might only test a secondary deep once on a good day. Campbell must have thrown 5 or 6 deep balls, forcing NO's safeties to stay honest, which in turn opened up the running attack. We need to continue to play smashmouth while taking deep shots - Give Saunders his due, this was an excellent gameplan
memphisskin 12-18-2006, 02:34 PM Agree, although i think about 5 weeks ago Gibbs and Saunders met in the middle of their offenses (or maybe the running game is just working better now).
The lloyd ball was a bad throw and not catchable imo. He completely burned his man and was looking over his right shoulder. The ball was thrown real short and over his left shoulder. Uncatchable imo. Baldinger of course said it was a perfect throw. A perfect throw would have hit him on stride (or close) over his right shoulder, inside not outside.
I'm really impressed w/ this oline and as soon as we start punching it in from the red zone. Who knows???
I thought it was a good throw, but a better sign of things to come. Lloyd was so intent on getting deep that he kind of dropped his head and just ran, and he couldn't locate the ball. If Lloyd saw the ball sooner he could have adjusted and made the catch, probably the prettiest incomplete pass of the day.
onlydarksets 12-18-2006, 02:58 PM I thought it was a good throw, but a better sign of things to come. Lloyd was so intent on getting deep that he kind of dropped his head and just ran, and he couldn't locate the ball. If Lloyd saw the ball sooner he could have adjusted and made the catch, probably the prettiest incomplete pass of the day.
It's hard to tell what the route was. If he was supposed to come back inside, then it was a bad pass. If he was supposed to look to the sideline, then it was almost perfect. Either way, Lloyd might have been able to adjust to it if he had looked back sooner.
Stacks42 12-18-2006, 02:59 PM It seems like especially yesterday, that we tend to get more conservative when in the red zone. Do you think Joe plays more of a role once in the red zone? You are right i think they were trying to limit JC's mistakes yesterday and called mostly runs. I'm sure it was part of the game plan although they threw deep often in the middle of the field, so go figure.
B. Mitchell said on the post game show that once the skins pass the opposing teams 35yd line that Gibbs gets involved in the play calling. This is probably why the skins keep stalling, once they get into the 35yd line there are constant delay of game calls, false starts, and the continuity that the offense had driving down the field completely goes to crap. If he is going to let Saunders run the offense, then he should let him run it. Oh yeah and can we please stop running that sweep play, Betts is running up the gut for 8,9,12 yds per carry then we do that stupid sweep and lose a yard or two!
JWsleep 12-18-2006, 03:06 PM I'm not sure I believe B Mitch about that--Gibbs hasn't said he does that. My guess is that they've scaled back their playcalls in the redzone--it is a different part of the playbook, and it's not surprising that JC doesn't have it all yet. Also, Gibbs may have said--look, don't turn it over down there--get what points you can. BUt I doubt he starts calling plays when they get to a certain point on the field--that would be super disruptive, and would mess up Saunders.
ArtMonkDrillz 12-18-2006, 03:13 PM Oh yeah and can we please stop running that sweep play, Betts is running up the gut for 8,9,12 yds per carry then we do that stupid sweep and lose a yard or two![/FONT]
I've been saying this for weeks! I will never understand that call.
Paintrain 12-18-2006, 03:21 PM I've been saying this for weeks! I will never understand that call.
The sweep isn't always designed for it to be a huge gainer. If you are getting 8,9,12 yds up the middle then you have to run outside to keep defenses honest and not pinch the DL and rush the OLB in the tackle/guard gap.. If you catch them in a inside stunt that's a long td run most of the time..
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