The Portis move in hindsight

Ok. I agree with you on that. Betts had not shown much. So let Rock C. and Kenny Watson be the back ups. Remember Kenny W? He ran well and so did Rock during the Spurrier years. I just think that you can win with average RB's. But you can't win with a bad defense. You can't hide that. I always believe that you keep the draft picks and stockpile.

You couldn't have made the argument about the D till this year. They were fine with Smoot and Springs. They were okay with Springs and Harris last year and they were better with Springs and Rogers till this year. If they had drafted a defensive guy, he wouldn't have seen the field anyway, because apparently Williams doesn't care how a vet is playing, he won't pull him for a rookie.

Let me throw this out there: If we put Portis on the trading block, can we fetch a first round pick for him?

Ok. I agree with you on that. Betts had not shown much. So let Rock C. and Kenny Watson be the back ups. Remember Kenny W? He ran well and so did Rock during the Spurrier years. I just think that you can win with average RB's. But you can't win with a bad defense. You can't hide that. I always believe that you keep the draft picks and stockpile.

So the defense has been bad for the first time since Portis has been here and Betts had one exceptional game and all of the sudden(three years later) getting Portis was a bad move... talk about a knee jerk.

And I can't even comment on a Kenny Watson reference...

I never liked the trade because I thought we gave up to much by adding a draft pick along with the best CB in the league...but Portis has been a great player for the redskins so it's long overdue to let this debate go.

I never liked the trade because I thought we gave up to much by adding a draft pick along with the best CB in the league...but Portis has been a great player for the redskins so it's long overdue to let this debate go.


As it was stated earlier, good point I might add, the pick was kind of a moot point, because Champ was leaving anyway. The second round pick jus ensured that Portis was more or less really coming to D.C.

You couldn't have made the argument about the D till this year. They were fine with Smoot and Springs. They were okay with Springs and Harris last year and they were better with Springs and Rogers till this year. If they had drafted a defensive guy, he wouldn't have seen the field anyway, because apparently Williams doesn't care how a vet is playing, he won't pull him for a rookie.

Your correct. BUT A GM would have saw this coming. Springs has a history of not staying healthy and it started to catch up with him last year. And it sure caught him this year. So a young corner OR TWO was in need. They got Joe S. off the scrap heap. Wynn was getting and is old. Same for Daniels. Where are the drafted young quality replacements that are being groomed in the system? We don't have any and that's why teams like TB run us over.

Your correct. BUT A GM would have saw this coming. Springs has a history of not staying healthy and it started to catch up with him last year. And it sure caught him this year. So a young corner OR TWO was in need. They got Joe S. off the scrap heap. Wynn was getting and is old. Same for Daniels. Where are the drafted young quality replacements that are being groomed in the system? We don't have any and that's why teams like TB run us over.

And a single second round draft pick two years ago would have fixed all those problems?

And a single second round draft pick two years ago would have fixed all those problems?

That was gonna be my reply exactly.

Let me throw this out there: If we put Portis on the trading block, can we fetch a first round pick for him?

He might be on the block because Betts is now getting paid starter money. He would command more than a 1st rounder. I would trade him for a 1st rounder and a starter. Texans would be a perfect team. Kubiak coached him in Den.

We knew Champ wanted to leave which meant everyone who we would be trading with knew as well. The "other team" had the upper hand in negotiations.