The Portis move in hindsight

Champ wanted to leave. I don't want any player on my team that doesn't want to be here. Portis got us into the playoffs last year and I wouldnt give that back for anything.

I also would never have guessed that my 1000 post would be about the Portis Bailey trade.

doesnt really matter what gibbs knew about betts, betts was constantly injured early in his career and couldnt show us his skills. and yeah bailey wanted out anyways, it was essentially trading a free agent

I also would never have guessed that my 1000 post would be about the Portis Bailey trade.
What would be funny would be if your first post was also about it.
It's the circle of life and it rules us all.

doesnt really matter what gibbs knew about betts, betts was constantly injured early in his career and couldnt show us his skills. and yeah bailey wanted out anyways, it was essentially trading a free agent

That's the best point. Betts couldn't keep himself on the field most of the time. He got hurt returning kicks and in a backup role a lot. That's probably another reason they went out and got Duckett. Also, it's been mentioned, but he is a horrible blocker. I feel like a lot of that pressure would have been picked up by Clinton last week. Betts hasn't performed until this season. He's looked mediocre every other time he saw significant action. I'm still weary of resigning him because a lot of people have big contract years and then it doesn't really come together for em after they get paid. A lot like baseball.

In addition to all that, the Skins had absolutely no chance of retaining Champ. He didnt wanna be here and was not coming back

not this again. bailey did not want to be a redskin. and the more betts plays, seems like he fumbles more and more. not something coach gibbs likes to see in his starters. and i cant remember the last time portis fumbled. anyone know how many he had last year?

Portis didn't fumble this year and he had 3 last year of which 2 were lost for turnovers.

He didn't fumble this year and he had 3 last year of which 2 were lost for turnovers.

Uhhh... Betts has fumbled three times this season, and the one that was a turnover basically gave the game to the Bucs.

As far as the trade, as many have said, Champ wasn't going to be here regardless, so I don't think there's even an argument as to whether is was a good move or not. And it's funny to me that the same people that want to claim Portis isn't built for Gibbs' system are the same people claiming that we could have drafted Tatum Bell, who is almost exactly the same build as Portis, and seems to get injured every other week.

Uhhh... Betts has fumbled three times this season, and the one that was a turnover basically gave the game to the Bucs.

I was talking about Portis.

This article about Betts really made me wonder:

Given chance to shine, Betts ponders staying with Redskins - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-redskins-bettsbid&prov=ap&type=lgns)

If Gibbs really knew what he had in Betts when he got here, do you think he would have still made the move for Portis?? He says he doesn't regret making the move and of course Portis is a top flight back in this league, but I wonder how things would have turned out if he thought Betts was a capable starting back. I doubt we would have been able to retain Bailey anyway, he really seemed set on getting out of here.

Just one of those things that makes you wonder.

I got killed when I brought this up a few weeks ago. But it's a good subject to talk about. Gibbs was away from the NFL for 11 years. He should not have been given ANY authority on personel. If a real GM was here that person should have told Gibbs that Betts has the ability to be an everydown back, and there was no need to deal for Portis. He's a 2nd rounder and those players should become your starters, not backups. He was a very productive player in college. So IMO another bad move by Gibbs.

I cannot agree with you more. Portis is all football, and I like that he's funny, a leader, and wears his costumes and boosts team morale. Those kind of things are invaluable.

Good point. You need some clowns in the locker room.