Spare time? Try conspiracy theories!

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JWsleep
06-27-2004, 01:57 AM
C'mon. The Lincoln-Kennedy thing, Elvis, the moon thing, are in a totally different class. The 9-11 conspiracy question is a current, crucial political and moral debate concerning who murdered thousands of Americans. It's like saying you saw this funny white-power website where they showed that the concentration camp photos and newsreels were staged. It's not some funny thing. It's not interesting in the sense you intend.

And, look, I know from other posts you've put up that you are politcally very aware and active. Just bringing this stuff to the table potentially discredits your views on other issues.

I completely understand that you don't believe it. But I also suspect that you brougt it up not so much because of the conspiracy/entertainment angle as that it has to do with current politics. What sort of discussion were you hoping to provoke? I'm anti-Bush, and if I didn't catch your entertainment vibe here, I'm skeptical that it's having the right effect.

skinsfanthru&thru
06-27-2004, 02:04 AM
JWSleep - have you read anything I typed? Every single time I said I thought it was an interesting read, but I also said I didn't believe it.

Personally I love conspiracy theories and enjoy reading about them. I know people, republican and democratic that went at this with an open mind and asked some questions. I'm not going to go off and said this happened, but it is an interesting read. I was up late one night and I was reading about the parrallels between Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations (which is kind of crazy, there are about 15 parallels), then a friend sent me an illuminati link, which then led me to this. I find it interesting to read, I don't hold water to it. This is for entertainment and to make you think.

I remember Fox did a pretty interesting show about the conspiracy theory that we never landed on the moon. Things such as why do you see ripples going different ways in the flag, when there isn't any sort of wind in space, etc. I also saw one on cable about Elvis still being alive. I am personally entertained by that sort of material. I just put it here for those with a bunch of spare time to mess around with. Also, the Paul McCartney being dead was interesting!

I two like thinking about and discussing some conspiracy theories but not to the point where the given theory is pretty much insulting to the intelligence of the reader or viewer. plus making up conspiracy theories that obviously have no real basis or facts behind it and that are about very sensitive topics just seems very innapropriate and demeaning to those with a personal connection to the theory.

i know this wasn't the consp. theory meant for the origin of the thread but has anyone watched the behind the music thing on the Notorious BIG? its kinda creepy that all the evidence pointed to a former officer and his best friend, but yet the LA's sheriff office wouldn't let the investigating officer follow through the investigation into the forementioned officer.

That Guy
06-27-2004, 02:50 AM
daseal, the problem i think, it that its on a very very slanted anti-bush site, which is using it as a propaganda piece, not entertainment, so the context in which the conspiracy is set just reeks horribly of tunnel vision.

I understand you don't believe it, but JWsleep does make some good points worth listening to.

and i could care less who's liberal/conservative etc, as long as they listen instead of yell, conversation is possible.

That Guy
06-27-2004, 02:53 AM
sorry i don't follow rap, but yeah, i figure either the sheriff thought it was a waste of time/too unlikely, or he wanted to cover shody police work... both make more sense than a true cover up, but i wasn't there, so you never know...

Daseal
06-27-2004, 02:36 PM
Well, honestly I was expecting the same reaction from the people I sent it to before. Both republican based and democratic based. I didn't post this with any sort of political beliefs in the way. I like to read about conspiracy theories, and I know others are in the same boat. Everyone I sent it to over AIM (about 5 people) read through it and thought it was interesting. The thing is they didn't automatically assume I had some sort of other motive forcing me to post it.

If any of you read it, they make interesting points about turning the lawn into a huge mid/gravel pit after just two days, which isn't nearly enough time to look through wreckage, etc. I just find it interesting. If you don't, that's fine. However, that site also has plenty of conservative and non-partisan links. That site is filled with links, not so much information. Sure, there are more liberal links than conservative, but they represent both sides, and I feel very well.

I simply found it interesting and didn't mean to upset everyone. The most interesting thing was the list of the people on the flight. Not a single person with muslim ties, at least that we knew about. Little things like that interest me. Take it for what you will, I only meant it for people to waste time with like I did.

That Guy
06-27-2004, 02:55 PM
look at the links again ;) kerry's links are ALL either positive or non offensive, half of the one's for bush are things like ihatebush.com... ;) i'm just saying, there's a very definite slant to the site, and don't worry, i'm not upset, I just thought i'd point out that this may be blatant sensationalism.

and i don't think anyone assumed or said you had a motive for posting it, just that they thought that the story and its current context seem very pointed in purpose, and in poor taste. I know that's not why you posted it, but it seems like that's why they wrote it.

cpayne5
06-28-2004, 09:30 AM
As for the Pentagon surveillance cameras, they're almost assuredly classified systems, so I don't think they'll be releasing those anytime soon. ;)

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