Fahrenheit 9/11

RamseyFan: A 2003 Stanford/UCLA/ University of Chicago study found that Fox News is the most centrist news organization.

As for Moore, I won't watch his movie where I have to pay money in order to obtain viewing rights. Part of that money would end up in his pockets, and I don't want that to happen. So, I'll probably wait until my school's library has it on file, and then watch it.

Here's a review from a noted leftist.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723

Great quote from that article:
"Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of "dissenting" bravery."


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great find cpayne5

cpayne, Fox news may be centrist, but some shows like O'reilly, and hannity & colmes really aren't (yeah, hannity has a dem on there, but he's kind of a pushover)...

Very nice Slate piece. That guy does not like Moore (and personally, it seems), but any Moore supporter must take these sorts of factual criticisms seriously. Otherwise, what's the point?

Still, I found it interesting that he made no mention of the mother from Flint whose son dies in Iraq. Many commentators have cited this as the real power of the film, and the part most likely to stick with folks, even those who disregard the conspiracy stuff. (I haven't seen it, so I only speak about it from a distance.)

As for FOX being "centrist," I wonder if someone could please point out a conservative news source for comparison. Rupert Murdoch's papers throughout the world have very conservative editorial pages (see, eg, The New York Post); further, as noted, the commentators on Fox News are considerably more conservative in their outlook than other news channels in this country. While their presentation of news updates, etc., may well be "centrist," their spin of the facts in discussion (yes, even in the "no spin zone") is decidedly to the right. I have no problem with the claim that most news sources tend to be liberal. (I think it's because people going into journalism tend to look up to the Woodward and Bernstein, investigative hero model, rather than because of some liberal left conspiriacy. I am skeptical of conspiracies in general.) Still, why not just admit that FOX is on the right, and take that as a guide to interpreting their reporst and comments?

I advise everyone to cross check their news as often as possible. It's truly enlightening to see the same story reported from a number of different sources. That's as easy as fliping between the major news sources on TV, or clicking on the google news tab, and checking the story in a number of online sources. Check it out, and try clicking on the "and 543 related", etc., links below the lead stories. It hooks with everything from the ravings of al Jazeera to the moderate centrism of Murdoch's FOX.

Google News (http://news.google.com/)

(yes, even in the "no spin zone")
uhh... especially in the no spin zone, i don't think anyone is going to argue that O'reilly clearly leans to the right ;). The slate article also does seem to spend a lot more time targetting moore than F911 specifically, but that may just be to prove a pattern (or he may just really really hate the guy)...

I get the washington post and the washington times (owned by the very right wing Mr. Moon i believe), and it is interesting to see how they headline some of the same stories.

When you're comparing Fox to NBC, CNN, CBS, etc, of course Fox is going to seem to more aligned to the right, but by saying that Fox leans heavily to the right (off center) you're not taking into consideration where those other news organizations are in relation to the center. You're looking at a part of the picture and not the whole picture by doing that.

Heh, I love how O'Reilly always calls himself independant, and talks about how he doesn't support either party. I don't know if I've ever heard him say a liberal thing during his radio program. I normally listen to it 2-3 times a week (I hate him, but a guy at work listens to it and I enjoy hearing the news from another angle.)

No spin zone, don't make me laugh. Is it possible to really have no spin when you really think about it??

I'm not a fan of O'Reilly at all, (hard to believe I know)

But I do watch him from time to time, I do appreciate his point of view and I can respect his opinions. I just wish he wasn't such a bully at times, that's usually when I flip away.