What type of offense do you like to see?

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mike340
12-06-2006, 10:56 PM
I would like to see an offense that can take what the defense gives. In addition I would like Saunders to change one of the rules he has for selecting plays. Instead of never reusing a play in 6(?) games. He should allow plays that have high probability of success to be run multiple times until the opposing team shows they can actually stop it. The Falcons have the worst run defense in the NFL. In our first two series we only called two passes. In both series our worst 3 rushes would have netted us a first down. When he started calling other stuff (passes and razzle-dazzle plays starting with the reverse in the third series) I had the feeling he was calling other types of plays because he didn't want to "overwork" that part of the playbook. So I want an offense that can exploit mismatches with the defense and that gains yardage consistently enough so that it can score (a lot of) points.

Big C
12-06-2006, 10:58 PM
pounding running game that wears down defenses and sets up play action passing deep

JGisLordOfTheRings
12-06-2006, 11:11 PM
Destructive run game-between the tackles more than not. Lots of running but it all sets up PA. Go for the throat. We should've stepped on Atlanta like we did the 49's last year ( no offense Rexi). Swarming defense like that of last years playoff run. Good defense WILL WIN YOU GAMES! PERIOD! Couple that with a potent offense that controls the clock and gashes defenses in both ways, air and ground.

Perfect.

08 maybe??


HTTR!!

skinsfan69
12-06-2006, 11:22 PM
I just get tired of people who say we need to get back to "smashmouth" football -- as if we're supposed to have a 50-to-10 run to pass ratio.

Even with the Hogs and John Riggins at their peak, Joe Gibbs' teams were not the pre-Bill Callahan Nebraska Cornhuskers.

Good offenses can run at will, and pass when they need to. Give Campbell more time to learn, and try to instill in this offensive line that yes, sometimes they will be called upon to pass block (which apparently, they find repugnant), and Saunders will have this team in chemistry.

And I don't care what the score is -- if we get the ball back with a minute or so before halftime, enough of the draw plays -- TRY TO SCORE.

I always admired the '99 Rams -- they could do it all.


This is a good point. I get so tired of all the Skins fans saying we must run to win. Run run run. I agree to a point. Sometimes teams will dare you to throw it by stacking the line. What if a team ( like Minnesota ) is tough against the run but weak against the pass? NE gave a blueprint on how to beat the Minn. defense. We sure did not try and throw on them at all. Are we just going to try and run, run and run some more??? Bottom line is we are not scoring enough TD's!!! Are we ever going to have an offense where we can spread teams out and throw? With the old Gibbs it was run first but you knew some deep passes were coming. New Gibbs? Sometimes I don't even know who this guy is anymore. I would like to see more passing. You pass to score and you run to win!

MTK
12-06-2006, 11:49 PM
More than anything, "smashmouth" is a mentality. It's tough guy football, it doesn't mean you can only run the ball, it's just the mentality of a tough team IMO.

RobH4413
12-07-2006, 12:17 AM
so basically a maddeon 07 offense?
I guess I am playing a bit too much madden. On rookie mode. With a custom team. All created characters as myself. 99's in everything. And I'm the head coach. And I save all the replays, and watch them before I go to bed.

j/k... but i used to do that kind of stuff back in the day. good times.

skinsguy
12-07-2006, 12:22 AM
Back in the day Gibbs offense did run alot, but they passed too, and they always finished off teams(see the scores of games from those season, most are like 40-10). That doesnt seem like a team that just runs all the time.

Well, that's true to a certain point, but they did finish alot of teams off by being ball controlled. Alot of those blow outs came from them scoring early and often, but the difference is that those teams had continuity....the offensive line had been together for years! In my opinion, that is the key to a great offense...develop a solid offensive line that is together for more than three seasons.

skinsguy
12-07-2006, 12:27 AM
Actually Rob you're probably not too far off from what Al Saunders wanted to do with this offense. He wanted it to be unpredictable...hence the reason why he doesn't like to call the same play twice in on game...or heck in several games. It does make it hard for the other teams to prepare. The only problem is, our offense just wasn't to the point where it could execute every play he pulls out of his playbook. I believe the lesson to be learned is, we do have to establish an identity and this offense needs to learn what it can do best within Saunders' scheme. I think once that happens, then you can slowly work that sense of unpredictablity into the mix.

RobH4413
12-07-2006, 12:36 AM
Actually Rob you're probably not too far off from what Al Saunders wanted to do with this offense. He wanted it to be unpredictable...hence the reason why he doesn't like to call the same play twice in on game...or heck in several games. It does make it hard for the other teams to prepare. The only problem is, our offense just wasn't to the point where it could execute every play he pulls out of his playbook. I believe the lesson to be learned is, we do have to establish an identity and this offense needs to learn what it can do best within Saunders' scheme. I think once that happens, then you can slowly work that since of unpredictablity into the mix.

Yeah, I was talking to my Physics professor about the redskins today after class. He kept saying how the redskins of old would be ready for the team to try and adjust to them.

He went on to say that teams would come out and when something didn't work, they tried to switch strategies, but Gibbs was always prepared. It was almost like he could see the future and know what was coming. He argued that possibly Gibbs was getting old (I noted the complexity of modern offenses), but then he mentioned Dallas with man boobs finally starting to have some success.

Finally I ended it with comparing Gibbs to Vermeil, who had success with KC, with Saunders as his OC as well. We agreed on some hope there, and both think that not building through the draft was a mistake.

Hopefully we'll play our cards right for next season... I don't even remember the last Superbowl. :-(

I want to still be in school for the next one (2 more years)... Crossing my fingers.

Redskin
12-07-2006, 12:47 AM
I love to see an offense that eats up clock and pounds away at the defense and totally has controll, if they want to pass they will pass, if the want to run they will run, reverse if needed, hell the QB could run to his own enzone tap the line and run back and still move the ball. thats the offense i like to see

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