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GTripp0012 12-05-2006, 06:37 PM I'm beginning a BA series that will continue throughout the offseason to use statistics to show exactly what the Front Office has (or hasn't) done that has caused the team's performance on the field to decline.
This edition, we have an in depth statistical look at why Randle El and Lloyd lack the big numbers that we as fans wanted them to put up.
http://www.thewarpath.net/wordpress/2006/12/05/learning-from-mistakes-the-aquisitions-of-lloyd-and-randle-el/
Enjoy!
hooskins 12-05-2006, 07:05 PM Nice read. It is very refreshing to see an arguement based on stats, rather than alot of this crap that has been going around this board.
BeastsoftheNFCeast 12-05-2006, 07:05 PM I have been saying that all year! I completely agree with you. The only thing I didn't like about this article/blog or whatever it is, is that you never brought up any opposing arguements, but very well done, and I don't know how you got them but I really liked the stats you used.
GTripp0012 12-05-2006, 07:12 PM I have been saying that all year! I completely agree with you. The only thing I didn't like about this article/blog or whatever it is, is that you never brought up any opposing arguements, but very well done, and I don't know how you got them but I really liked the stats you used.The dropback/thrown to stats from 05 I found in the Skins section of the Pro Football Prospectus 2006.
The 06 numbers were all from NFL.com.
I can only be one side of the issue. One of the things the BA is for is to have conflicting viewpoints. Hopefully we'll see some of that this offseason.
onlydarksets 12-05-2006, 09:08 PM Good job with the stats. I think he means it would have enhanced your argument to discuss (or at least to mention) other explanations for the low numbers to ARE and Lloyd (e.g., QB favoritism, playing time, etc.). That said, there's only so much that can be done in a blog article about stats before you start putting people to sleep.
hooskins 12-05-2006, 09:18 PM Good job with the stats. I think he means it would have enhanced your argument to discuss (or at least to mention) other explanations for the low numbers to ARE and Lloyd (e.g., QB favoritism, playing time, etc.). That said, there's only so much that can be done in a blog article about stats before you start putting people to sleep.
Well depends what kind of person you are. Personally I get sick of arguments without any basis, and I love reading stuff that is validated with stats.
onlydarksets 12-05-2006, 09:22 PM Well depends what kind of person you are. Personally I get sick of arguments without any basis, and I love reading stuff that is validated with stats.
OK...but you're missing the point. There are other possible explanations, and it only strengthens an argument if you address them (assuming you aren't just knocking down strawmen arguments). Plus, playing time is a stat, isn't it?
onlydarksets 12-05-2006, 09:23 PM OK...but you're missing the point. There are other possible explanations, and it only strengthens an argument if you address them (assuming you aren't just knocking down strawmen arguments). Plus, playing time is a stat, isn't it?
My bad - I misread your last post. I "get it" now.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-05-2006, 11:25 PM Good stuff GTripp! Thanks.
BDBohnzie 12-06-2006, 10:58 AM Great article GTripp.
I think once Saunders really implements his system here, that the 2 and 3 receivers (Lloyd, ARE, Patten) will see slightly higher production at the expense of the RBs. I also think that the RBs having higher production has more to do with Brunell's constant dumpoffs, considering he would constant checkdown when he couldn't find Moss or Cooley.
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