What was the LLoyd vs ARE arguement about at the end of the game?

That's the bottom line. Production. Clark was one tough as nails SOB who produced. You could count on him week in and week out. Sore hamstring or not he was going to be out there. So you put up with his antics as long as he does his thing on Sun. LLoyd? WTF has he done for anyone to tolerate his tantrums?

Do you expect him to be happy that he's getting thrown to 4 times a game?

No you said that he has a bad attitude and its starting to show and that he is bad mouthing everybody in the locker room. Please show us your evidence that this is happening. If you are going to post stuff like facts then show us where you get this information. If thats your opinion with no evidence then let it be known. By starting your statment like "I get the feeling he has a bad attitude".

It was reported on Sports Talk 980 yesterday and today that he is running his mouth in the locker room along with his sideline tantrums. So I guess they have a source and I believe it 100%. Plus Gibbs is having TWO one on on meetings with him within 24 hours about some issues. This is what Gibbs said. Do you think Gibbs is going to meet with the guy twice within 24 hours for throwing his helmet? I think there is more to it than that. Look at his past? He did the same crap in SF and the same things were reported there. It was reported that he was more concerned with his dreadlocks and music career than getting better and concentrating on football. One of their fullbacks ( I can't remember the guys name ) said this about both LLoyd and Barlow. I read the quotes in a football magazine. It's no wonder that both of them are gone and SF seems better without them. This stuff was reported and I believe it. SF could not wait to get rid of the guy.

...One of their fullbacks ( I can't remember the guys name ) said this about both LLoyd and Barlow. I read the quotes in a football magazine. It's no wonder that both of them are gone and SF seems better without them. This stuff was reported and I believe it. SF could not wait to get rid of the guy.

If SF was so worried about getting rid of bad character guys, then why did

they sign Antonio Bryant? I think questioning Lloyd's character at this

point is a little premature.

It was reported on Sports Talk 980 yesterday and today that he is running his mouth in the locker room along with his sideline tantrums. So I guess they have a source and I believe it 100%. Plus Gibbs is having TWO one on on meetings with him within 24 hours about some issues. This is what Gibbs said. Do you think Gibbs is going to meet with the guy twice within 24 hours for throwing his helmet? I think there is more to it than that. Look at his past? He did the same crap in SF and the same things were reported there. It was reported that he was more concerned with his dreadlocks and music career than getting better and concentrating on football. One of their fullbacks ( I can't remember the guys name ) said this about both LLoyd and Barlow. I read the quotes in a football magazine. It's no wonder that both of them are gone and SF seems better without them. This stuff was reported and I believe it. SF could not wait to get rid of the guy.
He has done nothing all season to say that he has a bad attitude. If he was mad with the way we ran the last few minutes of the game I think that most of us felt the same way so I give him a buy on that one.

Lloyd was in a pissy mood from the moment he arrived to FedEx Field on Sunday. He parked diagonal (in the players lot), taking up two parking spaces. Granted, he's driven to all of the home games therefore, he KNEW better. When the security officer asked him to move his car, he gave him lip.

Lloyd was in a pissy mood from the moment he arrived to FedEx Field on Sunday. He parked diagonal (in the players lot), taking up two parking spaces. Granted, he's driven to all of the home games therefore, he KNEW better. When the security officer asked him to move his car, he gave him lip.
I have to ask how do you know this?

Because I was there.

Let's find out all the facts before we crucify him. To say that he hasn't produced just isn't fair. Let's say for example Al S. had him on his Chiefs team last year. Would he have produced? My guess would be yes.

Let's find out all the facts before we crucify him. To say that he hasn't produced just isn't fair. Let's say for example Al S. had him on his Chiefs team last year. Would he have produced? My guess would be yes.

Good idea, let's reserve our ultimate judgement until we know some more info.

David Patten has injury problems, he's missed most of the last two seasons. Today we have systematically dised both Lloyd, and Ranlde El which means we're down to Moss and Thrash. What are we going to do?