Not enough protection for Campbell along with Campbell's inexperience=offensive woes

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dmek25
12-05-2006, 12:14 PM
campbells drops in the pocket are what he has practiced. the only difference is the line isnt blocking. im ready to go back to max protection and 2 wide receiver routes

jsarno
12-05-2006, 12:15 PM
b)Campbell took too many steps back, instead of releasing quickly. This is a combination of the playcalling and Campbell being uncomfortable. Saunders should have told him to do quick three step drops, but at the same time if he isn't yet comfortable doing so, how can Saunders force him to? I think he is taking 7 step drops because he is still young, and he feels he needs time and space to read the D. 2-3 step passes may be a bit too quick for him.

c)The windup. Yes I said it. He takes a bit too long to release the throw. I expect this to be changed in the offseason, and I don't expect or want it to be fixed now. JC is just throwing how he feels is best. Nevertheless, the extra half second it takes him to windup can easily be the difference between a TD and a sack.

Campbell seems to be in slow motion on his delivery. He has great velocity, but man that ball takes forever to get out. I think we will need to live with it. It's hard to break down a QB's mechanics and rebuild.

Campbell had some time on plays and missed. It's no big deal, it's to be expected. Let's not throw the OL under the bus. They weren't that bad. Campbell showed some sparks that have been missing. I think he'll be good next year when has the rest of this season to learn, and all the offseason to learn the books and take the snaps under center during practice / preseason. Campbell has the intangibles that we've been looking for. Just be patient guys. The best way to look at it is "our season is done", as soon as we all come to grips with that, the better we can see what we need and who is showing sparks of greatness. When we lost our 7th game, I had the mental mindset that the season was over. It's easier to see the team for what they are. Beleive it or not, we're not that far away from being a superbowl caliber team. Time and a couple key free agents will be the answer. CB and Kicker should be our area of focus for the free agents, then get a quality draft. The rest will come together. We were too optimistic to beleive that we could succeed with a new offensive system and a lot of injuries on the defensive side of the ball and no depth.

hooskins
12-05-2006, 12:29 PM
AMEN! What's the point in wanting your QB to do well and pass well if you aren't going to try and protect him? Lets face it. We miss Portis. Betts is good, dont get me wrong, he had a great GAME. He doesnt block as well as Portis does and that hurts. Just please guys, give JC a little time. He's young and getting a little wiser I think, even though its hard to say that after the 1st Int he threw. Regardless, protect JC, end of story.
I don't think people are done with Campbell lol. He is the future and we know he has potential. But that doesn't mean you baby him and not point out his flaws.

Longtimefan
12-05-2006, 01:44 PM
The lack of good protection is what was most obvious to me. Too often he had guys running at him totally unblocked. That's a tough task for any QB let alone an inexperienced one.



That's where we miss Portis in the backfield, and Betts shows his liability, a couple of plays in Sunday's game is an example of what I'm talking about.

Longtimefan
12-05-2006, 02:02 PM
Thoughts?



The amount of steps the QB takes in his drop is predicated on the design of the play. Some plays call for a three step drop, and others may call for anything from a five to seven step drop. However many steps the play calls for, you must have protection beyond a couple seconds. Jason Campbell got in trouble a couple times Sunday because the backs in the backfield were not efficient at picking up the blitz. There's no way you can throw it if you don't have time, and by Jason being young, he panicked, tried to make something happen, and wound up making a costly mistake.

hooskins
12-06-2006, 03:11 PM
That's where we miss Portis in the backfield, and Betts shows his liability, a couple of plays in Sunday's game is an example of what I'm talking about.
Yeah I agree, most people dont realize how good Portis actually is.

skinsguy
12-06-2006, 03:23 PM
Thoughts?

What about how low Campbell has to squat under center? That has to slow him down even more. He has to go from that position into his back pedal, and then the long wind up to pass the ball. The pass protection has to be perfect to allow that much time from Center - QB exchange to Campbell passing.

hooskins
12-06-2006, 03:48 PM
What about how low Campbell has to squat under center? That has to slow him down even more. He has to go from that position into his back pedal, and then the long wind up to pass the ball. The pass protection has to be perfect to allow that much time from Center - QB exchange to Campbell passing.
I noticed that too, and I realize he is tall, but I have never seen tall QBs squatting like they are gonna take a dump.

hooskins
12-06-2006, 03:49 PM
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skinsguy
12-06-2006, 04:10 PM
I noticed that too, and I realize he is tall, but I have never seen tall QBs squatting like they are gonna take a dump.

Doug Williams was tall and never had to squat that low...and he had a similar wind up. I wonder if there is anyway of training Casey to not squat so low or if maybe he is just a short guy to begin with? Brunell had the same problem as well.

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