Skins/Falcons goat of the day

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LMsexyAO
12-03-2006, 07:43 PM
The defense let it go today, not just 200+ yards total rushing but the average of over 7 yards every time they rushed. Completely unacceptable. A good LB that could stuff the run could help our defense immensely

mooby
12-03-2006, 07:44 PM
Easily the defense. Allowing 250+ yards on the ground is a way to easily lose the game, which we did.

dall-assblows
12-03-2006, 08:48 PM
i could of ran on our d today

Big C
12-03-2006, 08:56 PM
people are too scared to admit campbell was the goat because they want to imagine he is awesome from the start of his career. he will have bumps along the way, and this was definitely one of them. in the end the defense gave up 24 points, and the offense couldnt score after the first few minutes. i voted for campbell, and im shocked that im the only one. that first int cost us the game IMO. that totally changed momentum. sure the defense let us down, but they were on the field an awful lot because of our inability to consistently complete passes

PS: to the guy asking why campbell is even on the list. 52 QB rating. 18/38 1 td 2 int. if mark brunell did the same thing everyone would be killing him right now

MTK
12-03-2006, 08:57 PM
Campbell struggled but that was a direct result of the crappy pass protection. Too often he had guys running at him totally unblocked. Not sure what anyone would expect him to do.

I don't know how anyone can blame JC when the D gave up 200+ on the ground. I guess it goes back to that blame Brunell for everything syndrome.

Big C
12-03-2006, 08:59 PM
Campbell struggled but that was a direct result of the crappy pass protection. Too often he had guys running at him totally unblocked. Not sure what anyone would expect him to do.

I don't know how anyone can blame JC when the D gave up 200+ on the ground. I guess it goes back to that blame Brunell for everything syndrome.

when the offense cant convert 3rd downs, the defense is on the field too long. his turnover had a direct effect on the defense, and the momentum for the rest of the game

MTK
12-03-2006, 09:03 PM
when the offense cant convert 3rd downs, the defense is on the field too long. his turnover had a direct effect on the defense, and the momentum for the rest of the game

C'mon don't let the D off the hook so easy. We still won the TOP battle, so don't tell me the D was tired.

I agree the offense didn't do much in the 2nd half but let's get real, 256 yards given up on the ground is inexcusable and will lose you the game almost every time.

Big C
12-03-2006, 09:10 PM
C'mon don't let the D off the hook so easy. We still won the TOP battle, so don't tell me the D was tired.

I agree the offense didn't do much in the 2nd half but let's get real, 256 yards given up on the ground is inexcusable and will lose you the game almost every time.

im not letting the D off the hook. im making sure campbell doesnt get off easy, which it looks like so far he has. the defense was bad, but so was campbell and i havent seen anyone discussing that yet. again, if this was brunell he would have been slaughtered but everyone here is too enamoured with campbell

MTK
12-03-2006, 09:11 PM
im not letting the D off the hook. im making sure campbell doesnt get off easy, which it looks like so far he has. the defense was bad, but so was campbell and i havent seen anyone discussing that yet. again, if this was brunell he would have been slaughtered but everyone here is too enamoured with campbell

Of course the big difference is Campbell is making his 3rd start while MB was a 500 year vet. I think that's why people are willing to cut him some slack.

GTripp0012
12-03-2006, 09:29 PM
Campbell struggled but that was a direct result of the crappy pass protection. Too often he had guys running at him totally unblocked. Not sure what anyone would expect him to do.

I don't know how anyone can blame JC when the D gave up 200+ on the ground. I guess it goes back to that blame Brunell for everything syndrome.You are right, Matty. A lot of people assumed that even without seeing JC take a snap, that putting him in would be an improvement over Brunell. I hope the more objective of these fans are starting to see how that isn't the case.

Campbell has certainly brought an element with the deep ball that Brunell didn't have. But so far, he has struggled to complete passes underneath and move the chains. He has made up for it with running sometimes, but a lot of our drives are stalling because we either pick up 15 yards at a time, or we throw 3 incompletes in a row. Our offensive efficency has suffered.

To date, Campbell has done a good job taking care of the football, but he looked more like a rookie than a second year player today. THAT is why Brunell gives us the best chance to win.

Now I'll shift gears and reiterate why making the switch was a good decision. After the Philadelphia loss, we didn't have a realistic shot to win the division. We did however have a realistic shot to make the playoffs if we stayed with MB and the defense improved. But only as a wild card. And in my opinion, and I believe that of Joe Gibbs, getting lucky and getting the WC would not have accomplised our goals. So after the division got away, we made the switch, IRed Portis (as opposed to having him sit for 3 weeks, and play the rest of the year with a torn labrum), and moved toward the the future. So it was better to go about .500 with Campbell and miss the playoffs by 2 games than to stay with Brunell and and still have a good chance to miss. I'll buy that decision.

Back to the game, the defense did play the way it was playing all season. But I ask myself this: If they had given up only 17 defensive points (including the Campbell INT, giving them a short field), did the offense play well enough to win? I'm not so sure it did. Betts and the running game did it's part, but we've become predictable in our run pass playcalling based on personel packages, and protection issues aside, Campbell didn't even complete 50%. If he's not getting the football to his teammates (not even his backs), he can't be absolved of blame.

It's not his fault we lost...but I'm not sure he played well enough to win.

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