Im done....Gibbs must go.

Well I definitely would like to see Ol' Grimm get a shot at the Skins HC job...after 2008. Gibbs stays until his contract expires. A fool would think otherwise. It is possible he may step down if his health takes a drastic turn for the worst but I think that's about the only reason a proven winner would ever consider stepping down. Danny's not going to fire him (this year). It'll be hard not to if next year winds up like this one.

ITs been 3 years, we've lost the future with our draft picks and we have spent more than any other team in free agency, YES Id say its time to clean house!

And I disagree. You don't clean house after one year removed from making the playoffs and advancing....

ITs been 3 years, we've lost the future with our draft picks and we have spent more than any other team in free agency, YES Id say its time to clean house! Gibbs has a lifetime pass in WAS. Skins went to the playoffs last year. Biggest change Saunders came on. Drop Saunders problem fixed.

While i don't think Gibbs needs to be fired or leave after this season i'm beginning to doubt this coaching staff greatly. Next year is going to be very telling as to the direction of this franchise. There is no bigger fan of JG's out there than me, but you've got to question alot of the things that this franchise does. Some on this board think that no one should even question Joe Gibbs and the coaching staff. No doubt about it JG's is the president and all decisions come thru him, so he deserves alot of the blame.

Two things come to mind...

The signing of Brunell (an aging benched quarterback). Sorry to start this again but had we had a capable above average qb last year, we may have gone all the way.

Personell and our player free agent philosophy. I don't really get it. We bring in lloyd and ARE and we are a running smashmouth team. Or did we just waste alot of $ and picks to have decoys. Either we are or we're not. How about balance. Seems like we sign guys we don't use...Not going to get started on the d...

He's defending his argument and has made some very good points. All the counter-arguments seem to be coming from people who either don't know anything about football, or are afraid to face the facts.

What good points? I've seen none. And we don't know football don't know the facts?? Please, you just haven't read our counter-arguments.

What good points? I've seen none. And we don't know football don't know the facts?? Please, you just haven't read our counter-arguments.


What counter arguments? You guys have none! No one can defend Gibbs modern day record, you just resort to "you couldn't do better" or its "not Gibbs' fault its the players" or the ever popular, its " not Gibbs its the coordinators." No counter arguments worth a crap.

What counter arguments? You guys have none! No one can defend Gibbs modern day record, you just resort to "you couldn't do better" or its "not Gibbs' fault its the players" or the ever popular, its " not Gibbs its the coordinators." No counter arguments worth a crap.

Hahahaha..yet you're I'm blaming Joe Gibbs for having too much corn in your poop arugment is strong? Riiiigghhhhht. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

I agree with a lot that your saying Paulskinsfan, and congrats on ripping up skinsguy, ncskinfanec, hesscl34, and bedlamvr. Paul wins 4-0.

but seriously he's right and I don't understand why a lot of you are giving him a hard time. He's defending his argument and has made some very good points. All the counter-arguments seem to be coming from people who either don't know anything about football, or are afraid to face the facts.

He's right?

On what?

That Gibbs needs to go? He can have his opinion, whether it's right or not is what's up for debate.

I need help I can't find the link for the suicide hotline.

What counter arguments? You guys have none! No one can defend Gibbs modern day record, you just resort to "you couldn't do better" or its "not Gibbs' fault its the players" or the ever popular, its " not Gibbs its the coordinators." No counter arguments worth a crap.

Dude, give it up. I see your point as I've posted...not to simply to agree with you for the sake of agreeing or to cause strife, but the facts and the current state of the team lay at Gibbs' feet.

Should we go and get a new coach or new GM, I don't know. What I do know is, Joe Gibbs has done a very average job since coming here. I think there is no question his past has gotten him a free pass here.

I guess we'll have to see what year four brings.