Im done....Gibbs must go.

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skinsguy
12-03-2006, 08:38 PM
Im so very sorry. The first individual was "mentally challenged" not retarded, that was inappropriate and Im sorry. The second individual had the intellect of a donkey. Again, my mistake. Go Hilary!

And this individual maturity-challenged.

GTripp0012
12-03-2006, 08:38 PM
Again, defend the man on his modern day performance.Joe Gibbs' offense ressurected Mark Brunell's career and HE took our offense from one of the leagues' worst in 2004 to above average in 2005. If you chart improvement, we only have gotten better on offense since he came back.

We are struggling in no small part because he GAVE UP some of his executive coaching powers. This would not be the season to blame Gibbs because he has less control than he did last season.

I will say this: since he isn't calling the offense, he really isn't much more than an overseeing figurehead at this point.

And his interviening may be the best possible solution.

12thMan
12-03-2006, 08:41 PM
If Gibbs was exposed to the NY media, they would eat his lunch during the pressers.

paulskinsfan
12-03-2006, 08:41 PM
Joe Gibbs' offense ressurected Mark Brunell's career and HE took our offense from one of the leagues' worst in 2004 to above average in 2005. If you chart improvement, we only have gotten better on offense since he came back.

We are struggling in no small part because he GAVE UP some of his executive coaching powers. This would not be the season to blame Gibbs because he has less control than he did last season.

I will say this: since he isn't calling the offense, he really isn't much more than an overseeing figurehead at this point.

And his interviening may be the best possible solution.


Quite honestly, that's the best defense someone could give the man. Im not buying it, but its his best defense and I applaud you for that!

skinsguy
12-03-2006, 08:44 PM
"Most of us feel it's a very weak defense, but whatever floats your boat."

Do a poll. This should be the question:

Who is the most responsible person for the current state of the Washington Redskins:

A. The Players
B. Dan Snyder
C. Joe Gibbs
D. Taylor Jacobs

This is quite skewed! You have said nothing about Gregg Williams who makes all the decisions about the defense and Joe Gibbs has said this over and over again, yet you say nothing about the defense. You say nothing about the rookie mistake of Jason Campbell throwing the INT when he should've ate the football. You say nothing about Campbell not seeing a wide open Chris Cooley on that drive where we should've scored on. You say nothing about the INT Campbell throws that put the nail in the coffin for us. You say nothing about our thin secondary, the injuries we've had to valuable guys like Springs for instance. All you have to say is it's all Joe Gibbs fault. If this is true, then are you willing to give Joe Gibbs the credit for getting this team in the playoffs and winning a playoff game in his second year back as head coach?

My point is, there are plenty of variables the equate to our losing season. Sure, Joe Gibbs is going to take all the blame, but to answer YOUR poll....everybody is to blame for our team this year. That isn't to say I think everyone needs to be fired, but everybody needs to improve on their job.

paulskinsfan
12-03-2006, 08:46 PM
"If you chart improvement, we only have gotten better on offense since he came back."

Im going to disagree with you here, I don't think Gibbs offense has only gotten better since he's been here, I think it was pretty pathetic from the get go.

MTK
12-03-2006, 08:47 PM
This is quite skewed! You have said nothing about Gregg Williams who makes all the decisions about the defense and Joe Gibbs has said this over and over again, yet you say nothing about the defense. You say nothing about the rookie mistake of Jason Campbell throwing the INT when he should've ate the football. You say nothing about Campbell not seeing a wide open Chris Cooley on that drive where we should've scored on. You say nothing about the INT Campbell throws that put the nail in the coffin for us. You say nothing about our thin secondary, the injuries we've had to valuable guys like Springs for instance. All you have to say is it's all Joe Gibbs fault. If this is true, then are you willing to give Joe Gibbs the credit for getting this team in the playoffs and winning a playoff game in his second year back as head coach?

My point is, there are plenty of variables the equate to our losing season. Sure, Joe Gibbs is going to take all the blame, but to answer YOUR poll....everybody is to blame for our team this year. That isn't to say I think everyone needs to be fired, but everybody needs to improve on their job.

That makes too much sense.

It's easier to sit back and blame one guy.

skinsguy
12-03-2006, 08:48 PM
"If you chart improvement, we only have gotten better on offense since he came back."

Im going to disagree with you here, I don't think Gibbs offense has only gotten better since he's been here, I think it was pretty pathetic from the get go.

Which is why we brought in Al Saunders. But you're still talking about Joe Gibbs' offense, when it isn't Joe Gibbs' offense anymore, nor is it Joe Gibbs' calling the plays.

paulskinsfan
12-03-2006, 08:48 PM
This is quite skewed! You have said nothing about Gregg Williams who makes all the decisions about the defense and Joe Gibbs has said this over and over again, yet you say nothing about the defense. You say nothing about the rookie mistake of Jason Campbell throwing the INT when he should've ate the football. You say nothing about Campbell not seeing a wide open Chris Cooley on that drive where we should've scored on. You say nothing about the INT Campbell throws that put the nail in the coffin for us. You say nothing about our thin secondary, the injuries we've had to valuable guys like Springs for instance. All you have to say is it's all Joe Gibbs fault. If this is true, then are you willing to give Joe Gibbs the credit for getting this team in the playoffs and winning a playoff game in his second year back as head coach?

My point is, there are plenty of variables the equate to our losing season. Sure, Joe Gibbs is going to take all the blame, but to answer YOUR poll....everybody is to blame for our team this year. That isn't to say I think everyone needs to be fired, but everybody needs to improve on their job.

Again. Whose decision was it to bring in Greg Williams and to let Greg Williams have complete autonomy with defensive personnel?

MTK
12-03-2006, 08:49 PM
"If you chart improvement, we only have gotten better on offense since he came back."

Im going to disagree with you here, I don't think Gibbs offense has only gotten better since he's been here, I think it was pretty pathetic from the get go.

It was 11th in yardage and 13th in points last year.

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