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justrick 06-24-2004, 08:00 PM hey guys don't look as Mccants at H-back as anything other than a special timing type of situation. It would not be a down after down or week after week type of arrangement. That's another of the tons of benefits of having Gibbs and Company back. Knowing when and when not to utilize a resource. The SS era is over. Hurry up season!!! GO SKINS!!!!!
SKINSnCANES 06-24-2004, 08:10 PM Portis would never want McCants lining up in front of him to blcok, you gusy are thinkign a lot about him as a receiving Hback, but when hes lining up as a full back hes going to get creamed by linemen and linebackers and Portis is just going ot have to try and run around him.
joecrisp 06-24-2004, 09:05 PM I understand that the idea behind using McCants as an H-back would be only on 3rd-down or passing situations, but again, the problem with that is you're losing a valuable blocker by replacing one of the regular H-backs with a receiver.
I understand that his speed would represent a mismatch in certain personnel situations. But again, that's going back to the Spurrier philosophy that "speed kills". That philosophy may be true on defense, but Spurrier's offense showed us that when you add receivers and subtract blockers, the only thing getting killed is the quarterback.
Remember, the buzz-phrase being used around Redskins Park these days is "maximum protection". Why? Because defenses are blitz-happy. When do defenses blitz the most? Passing situations.
Again, the beauty of the H-back position is that he's a player who can both block and catch passes with equal efficacy. You can move him up and down the line of scrimmage-- on any down and distance-- and keep the defense guessing as to where he'll wind up when the ball is snapped, and what he'll do when the ball is in play. Chris Cooley can do that. That's why Gibbs and Bugel wanted him so badly, and that's why they gave up a 2nd-rounder in 2005 to get him.
That Guy 06-25-2004, 03:38 AM Double the best, and offer that to KWII. Do you think he'd be happy with 58 catches? Or would he be a malcontent? I know what my vote is.
well, he did spend his post draft interview whining about how washington didnt pick him, and calling gibbs a liar... and the postons have already mentioned holding him out and wanting 1st pick money...
I think gibbs did find background checking and found out the guy is a total jerk/ego, and that taylor was a better team player (and well liked).
So yeah, I know how i'd vote to. In the washington times they ran a poll over whether we should get KW or ST, and about 80% said taylor, even though the post and times spent a lot more space talking about winslow.
and about mccants, maybe if it was low usage, but i really think it'd be obvious he's not going to be able to block most people, so he'd be letting the D know its a pass...
diehardskin2982 06-25-2004, 11:12 AM I still think it could be a great idea, its not like buguel couldn't show him a thing or 2 about cut blocking. Plus if there was a constant switching at the position between the 4 or so players playing the position you wouldn't know what to expect. Fake pass to him out to the flats and run portis inside Dockery and Raymer with Thomas pulling as lead blocker. The OLb would have to respect the pass option of McCant & thomas would kill the middle linebacker, while portis shake the safety TD baby.
Lastly it's not like McCants could not gain weight, especially if it meant starting at the position. Hell if he picked up enough just enough weight he could turn into a playmaker like TO or Boston.
We can't make a definite judgement on what a player can do it all... because it's about what he thinks he can do.... choice example Zach Thomas who is extremly undersized for his position but still is one of the best.
I don't agree that expectations went down when we took Cooley. From the sounds of it he has all the tools to fit into the system very nicely. He can block, he has good hands and he's intelligent. Not to mention he's not a royal pain in the ass who will freak out when the ball isn't coming his way enough.
I find it hilarious that the so called experts all thought that KWII was going to be the pick, but I think I can speak on behalf of most of us fans when I say that we knew all along that KWII was not the best option and most of us didn't want him at all.
As for McCants playing h-back, I don't see it happening. Too gimmicky, definitely not Gibbs' style. As people have already said, Gibbs is all about protection, he's not going to risk a sack by lining up a WR at h-back in a passing situation. Gibbs does dip into the trick play bag on occassion, but even those risks are calculated and well thought through.
justrick 06-25-2004, 07:11 PM hey Diehardskin. I'm 50 years old and have been a redskin fan since the Norm Snead, Rickie Harris era. I'm trying to remember being this excited about one of our teams before the start of a season and I can't. Can you or any other long term fans? If so which team and what season? Thinking about it as I type. Maybe it was when we got Vince Lombardi. I knew than that we were moving away from our habitual losing. It's times like these that make the old 3 and 11 seasons lose their sting. Many good times ahead for us. JUSTRICK
diehardskin2982 06-25-2004, 07:29 PM I'm hype too, more now than before. I didn't like the first spending spree because alot of those were just old, but know it some hard core talent I just hope that everyone stays healthy for the majority of the year.
JWsleep 06-25-2004, 07:35 PM hey Diehardskin. I'm 50 years old and have been a redskin fan since the Norm Snead, Rickie Harris era. I'm trying to remember being this excited about one of our teams before the start of a season and I can't. Can you or any other long term fans? If so which team and what season? Thinking about it as I type. Maybe it was when we got Vince Lombardi. I knew than that we were moving away from our habitual losing. It's times like these that make the old 3 and 11 seasons lose their sting. Many good times ahead for us. JUSTRICK
Right on, Justrick! And good to have you aboard! Man, is it September yet????
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