Do We Have A Legit Shot At Nate Clements?

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JWsleep
11-22-2006, 12:36 PM
Good post, Gmanc. I agree here. Clements isn't gonna fix it, and it feels like another quick fix, big splash move. We need D-line help, and we need to target guys like Marcus Washington--on the rise, but not there yet, etc. Of course, everyone is looking for those guys, but when we did that, it worked.

And we need to re-sign guys, not just to keep continuity, but to show the players we're for real when we say "core redskin." I think the loss of AP, Smoot, and Clark hurt the D and shook their faith in this "core player" idea. That didn't happen on the offensive side of the ball--wonder if Williams and co made those decisions, and Gibbs stayed out of the way there? Is there anyone we miss on offense? (More and more, I am growing skeptical of Williams--maybe this is just an easy way to avoid knocking on St. Joe, but whatever...)

The Zimmermans
11-22-2006, 12:39 PM
Stop with this rogers is gonna improve crap, I don't like the guys attitude, it's not a hardworking improvement type attitude, I bet we could get something good for him right now. He's the only guy on the team I truly dont like as a player and person.

dmek25
11-22-2006, 12:45 PM
LB kawika mitchell.

espn said he is th best LB in FA this year and we need LB help.

have a look:
Kawika Mitchell, #50, Linebacker, Kansas City Chiefs (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/kawika_mitchell/)
he is so good that i have never heard of him

The Zimmermans
11-22-2006, 12:49 PM
there defense isn't crappy. it's 13th. plus what the hell are you talking about? in case u haven't noticed, our defense is terrible. it can't hurt at all to give him a shot.

NFL.com - NFL Stats (http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2006/regular?sort_col_1=4)

It can't hurt???? yes it can, free agency always hurts us, plus that defensive rating is inflated cause the chiefs probably lead the league in offensive possession time due to running larry so many times a game, giving the defense less time on the field to give up yards.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
11-22-2006, 01:24 PM
The more I think about it, the less I like the idea of signing Clements. He's going to command a huge contract. He's also going to be 28; so he's got about 2 years before he starts declining.

Yeah we need help in the secondary, but I'm not going to give up on Rogers just yet and I'm praying that we can find a less expensive alternative on the market or in the draft.

The Zimmermans
11-22-2006, 01:28 PM
Yeah, I think our secondary needs should be adressed in the draft, with our second pick possibly. Our first pick should be a MLB, posluzsny, and our later picks should be DTs, while free agency should be used for a DE, but we need better talent evaluation for the DE position before we make a move on that. I just feel that quality DE's are so so hard to find in the draft, many of them are busts.

Longtimefan
11-22-2006, 03:28 PM
I prefer us not think about FA's already. For much of this season we have critisized the FO for it's free agent aqusitions, and with the season just a little over half gone, we're back to the well again. When are we ever going to learn? It certainly wouldn't suprise me if Nate Clements is reading here, he can't wait for Snyder One to land so he can make his haul.

For once I want to see the FO go into the offseason with the mindset, we're going to seek players who will play to get paid, as opposed to those whom you have to pay to play. Our #1 priority should be to improve the D-line first, we have witnessed first hand for the last few years that it's our major weakness. I'm not a GM, or in any way a football expert, but if I were going to start building a team tomorrow, I would start with my offensive, and defensive lines. Every team I can think of that has ever been successful on a sustained basis had both. I repeat, the lines are the heart and soul of your football team, once in order, everything else will take shape.

dall-assblows
11-22-2006, 04:12 PM
he is so good that i have never heard of him

exactly! you dont need the big names like AA. do you remember when our defense was best? it was when we had no name players like a Antonio pierce and others. we just need some players with level heads and want to play football rather than count there money.

budw38
11-22-2006, 04:49 PM
I agree with GMANC. We should focus on the defensive line before we go out and get a brand new secondary. The defensive line is definitely our achilles. We can't stop the run, and there's no rush whatsoever.

I say we add another guy to compliment Griffin, and a legit pass rusher to replace Daniels/Wynn.
I also agree , Clements will be of little help without a pass rush . We need two D-Lineman , one pass rusher and one big nasty mountian of a man who can stuff the run . This team needs to stop trading away all these damn draft picks ! At least if you lose a guy that you draft in a few years , you get compensation , when a F/A that you sign leaves or is cut , you end up with a hit on the cap . Not to mention you always have an older team. If Synder and Gibbs keep doing what they are doing , people around the league will be calling us the AZ . Cardinals of the east .

SouperMeister
11-22-2006, 05:53 PM
I also agree , Clements will be of little help without a pass rush . We need two D-Lineman , one pass rusher and one big nasty mountian of a man who can stuff the run . This team needs to stop trading away all these damn draft picks ! At least if you lose a guy that you draft in a few years , you get compensation , when a F/A that you sign leaves or is cut , you end up with a hit on the cap . Not to mention you always have an older team. If Synder and Gibbs keep doing what they are doing , people around the league will be calling us the AZ . Cardinals of the east .
Amen! Rebuild the team from the interior lines first. We're getting killed in the trenches, especially on D. Griffin and Golston may be the only current D-linemen who are slam-dunks to return next year. Gibbs should look to draft DE since stud free agent DE's are far more expensive than DT's. Draft either Adams or Moses with the 1st round pick, and look for a run stuffing DT through free agency. Take care of the D-line first, and the entire D will improve (including Carlos Rogers).

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