The Zimmermans
11-22-2006, 11:01 AM
Yeah, I agree, Sellers and Cooley are a must. Those are two quality teammates that we can't afford to lose. I'd hate for us to get in a battle with other teams over them.
Do We Have A Legit Shot At Nate Clements?The Zimmermans 11-22-2006, 11:01 AM Yeah, I agree, Sellers and Cooley are a must. Those are two quality teammates that we can't afford to lose. I'd hate for us to get in a battle with other teams over them. SouperMeister 11-22-2006, 11:04 AM thanks alot for the info schneed. i also think sean taylors contract is up after this season. is that right? and i only want clements if he is only 28. if he is older, i say no. and i like your thinking on cooley Taylor's contract is actually through 2010, and it becomes very cap friendly after this season. http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm Hog1 11-22-2006, 11:06 AM If I were going to model myself after a team, Philly does not come to mind. They have risen to............some fame in a weak division. Since the complexion of the division is changing, that to has changed. They have sunk back to where they belong. They are notorious for being cheap with their players and it has cost them. There fans are arguably the most?????????? Foul in the NFL. They seem to thrive on that image. I personally do not aspire to that for the Skins MTK 11-22-2006, 11:13 AM If the Redskins were smart, they'd go ahead and resign Chris Cooley to a long-term deal now. I don't want to see him reach the end of his (very inexpensive) deal after the 2007 season and then be a threat to hit the open market. If he starts to sniff free agency, he's going to either test the free agent market, or demand that the 'Skins pay him market value to keep him. Which should be considerably high. Resign him now before that happens, and he might relish the opportunity to take a big payday now, even though it's less than what he'd likely get if he waited two more years. Basically, take a page out of the Eagles' playbook. Draft a player, watch him develop into a good player in two or three years, and resign him long term before he hits the open market. Gee, keeping your homegrown talent. Imagine that. Cooley is definitely a guy that needs to get locked up for the long term. I normally don't get too attached to players, but if we let Cooley walk I'd really be disappointed. SouperMeister 11-22-2006, 11:16 AM If I were going to model myself after a team, Philly does not come to mind. They have risen to............some fame in a weak division. Since the complexion of the division is changing, that to has changed. They have sunk back to where they belong. They are notorious for being cheap with their players and it has cost them. There fans are arguably the most?????????? Foul in the NFL. They seem to thrive on that image. I personally do not aspire to that for the Skins Show me a team that does a better job of keeping a young core group together? They've had very few misses on that count (letting Derrick Burgess hit free agency and giving Todd Pinkston an extension are the only two bad decisions that come to mind). They've made four appearances in the NFC championship game and a Super Bowl appearance. Let me remind everyone that we haven't won a single playoff game beyond the wild card round since the last Super Bowl run in '91. After years of roaming the desert, yes, I'd be happy for the Skins to achieve what Philly has over the last 5-6 years. Anyone who doesn't see that as an improvement must prefer winning the "paper title" in March, as the Danny aspires to every offseason. Hog1 11-22-2006, 11:32 AM Show me a team that does a better job of keeping a young core group together? They've had very few misses on that count (letting Derrick Burgess hit free agency and giving Todd Pinkston an extension are the only two bad decisions that come to mind). They've made four appearances in the NFC championship game and a Super Bowl appearance. Let me remind everyone that we haven't won a single playoff game beyond the wild card round since the last Super Bowl run in '91. After years of roaming the desert, yes, I'd be happy for the Skins to achieve what Philly has over the last 5-6 years. Anyone who doesn't see that as an improvement must prefer winning the "paper title" in March, as the Danny aspires to every offseason. What the Skins have, or have not accomplished is immaterial. I think we can all agree that they have spent to much on player aquisation from time to time. My point was and is, what have the Eagles really accomplished that have impressed you so much? If they improve........substancially, they can be they can be...............the Buffaloe Bills. They have accomplished all this with NO viable division competition. You can see what they are becoming as the division improves. Wish to be the Pat's. Seahawks, not the ugly sister SouperMeister 11-22-2006, 12:05 PM What the Skins have, or have not accomplished is immaterial. I think we can all agree that they have spent to much on player aquisation from time to time. My point was and is, what have the Eagles really accomplished that have impressed you so much? If they improve........substancially, they can be they can be...............the Buffaloe Bills. They have accomplished all this with NO viable division competition. You can see what they are becoming as the division improves. Wish to be the Pat's. Seahawks, not the ugly sister I blame the Eagles woes of the past two years far more on injuries and the T.O. implosion last season than division improvement. My point is, that we as a fan base are living off past accomplishments from 15+ years ago, because that is all we can hang our hat on. I'll repeat, I'd take Philly's run from 2000-2005 in a heartbeat after years of bottom feeding. During that run, there were other good teams in the East (2000 Giants won 12, 2002 Giants won 10, 2003 Cowboys won 10). 2004 was the only season Philly had all dogs as division competition. If you want to talk about a team that has had ZERO division competition, look no further than Seattle over the past 2 1/2 years. No other team in the West is over .500 for that stretch. And BTW, I'd also love to accomplish what Buffalo did in the early 90's. We haven't had back-to-back winning seasons since '91-'92. We have no business turning up our noses at anyone's accomplishments. Show me 2 or 3 winning seasons in a row and that would be a massive improvement. But I digress. As for Clements, I'd prefer to spend any FA money to build up a stud D-line. Does anyone really believe Clements would be a good player with our total lack of pressure from the front four? The Zimmermans 11-22-2006, 12:16 PM I wish we went after trevor price when he was availabe instead of garbage like carter. We gotta be patient and go after the truly talented free agents when they are available. And keep those acquisitions few and far between Hog1 11-22-2006, 12:21 PM If would not turn up your nose at the Eagles organization and basically anything connected to them, then I cannot make you understand. I personally don't want to win bad enough to mimic that. The Zimmermans 11-22-2006, 12:26 PM Eagles are a notoriously cheap franchise, and they are very good at not spending money and staying successful. However, that cheap mentality is the reason they havent won a superbowl. Their boldest move was signing TO, and they got to the superbowl, but with a few other big time playmakers they might have actually won it. |
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