JOE GIBBS needs to take control

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SmootSmack
11-21-2006, 04:12 PM
Wherever Al goes, the defense sucks, maybe he puts something in the defenders' water to keep the focus off his offense.

I think it's because his offense isn't designed for grind it out, control the clock football necessarily.

I think the overall point of bringing in Saunders, drafting Campbell, drafting Rocky was for the long term. I think Gibbs felt under his watch as head coach they would be at least a perennial playoff team and then the young guns could take that next step when he stepped down as head coach. Instead of the team crashing and burning like the last time he left.

SouperMeister
11-21-2006, 05:47 PM
Even Todd Collins told Brunell that the Saunders offense would take a whole year to master. I say stick with it. Saunders teams have put up boatloads of points after the initial growing pains. Next year may be a rebuilding year anyway, at least on the defensive side of the ball, so let's not introduce further instability by turning away from an offense that has proven effective as recently as last season in KC.

atomicnixon
11-21-2006, 08:37 PM
Al Saunders is going to be here for a while. The offense was productive with Campbell behind center, so I really don't think that the offense needs any work. Some things take time, have patience, the offense is going to be real good at the end of this season and all of next season.

Gibbs is trying to make a team that runs itself, where he can retire and the Redskins organization can still win (NO I AM NOT SAYING GIBBS IS LEAVING AFTER THIS SEASON). Time my friends, all good things take time.

charlielyons
11-21-2006, 09:41 PM
we need to only pick up clements in f.a i really dont think our secondary would be as bad if preilou were not on ir. we will pick up some d-lineman in the draft to give us a pass rush and we will be fine

Pocket$ $traight
11-21-2006, 10:09 PM
GIBBS is the head coach and Al is not. Look at the Ravens situation


We don't have a defense that can play anywhere near the level of the Ravens.

When the Ravens D is good they are good. It doesn't matter whether Billick is calling plays or not. Also, they had a good record when he made that move.

GREENSTHEMAN
11-22-2006, 06:19 AM
AT least they made the playoffs last year. If you go to the playoffs you don't reconstruct the offense. So everyone has to learn a new offense all over again.

That's part of the problem with the skins is not staying with any one system offensively or defensively for more than 3 years in a row.

vaoutlaws2006
11-22-2006, 07:19 AM
First of all you have to use a qb that can make all the throws to make the Al Saunders offense work. and it takes time to learn a new system. We need to all just relax and be patient. This season is a wash...lets get JC used to playing in this offense and get a healthy portis and reload for next season. No more free agent spending sprees lets use the draft to find our missing pieces.

dmek25
11-22-2006, 07:24 AM
if you would have told me at the end of last season what a mess our defense would be in, i would have laughed at you. but the defense is, should be top priority this off season. let campbell get experience working with the same players and system, for more then one season

gabe1984
11-22-2006, 04:52 PM
Hooskins, I don't really agree with what you are saying. Ok, Al Saunders, and Joe Gibbs are both proven guys in the NFL, but our personnel doesn't really fit Saunders' offensive sceme. A) Saunders has always had a stud at quarterback, we have a washed up veteran, and a 2nd year guy we really don't know too much about. Neither one of them has proved that they are as good as Warner or Green, and therefore may not be able to do the same things as they could for their offenses. B) Al Saunders like to run all these sweeps, tosses, off tackles and stretch plays. Guess who doesn't like to run the ball like that? A one Mr. Clinton Portis, and the offensive line!!! Portis makes it known ALL THE TIME that he likes to run it up the gut, yet we don't run those plays enough. We have big, powerful offensive lineman who like to smash the ball up the middle, they're not guys who are used to running these stretch plays. Don't you think Saunders Should change the offense to fit CP and the offensive line's needs?

Longtimefan
11-22-2006, 06:45 PM
There are only minimal changes needed for this offense to be where we want it to be. I think we should stay with the system we have because there's nothing wrong with it other than it's new. I would like to see Al Saunders stay with the running game a little longer even if he's not always getting the desired results on the early downs.

What makes me feel best about this offense is the arm of Jason Campbell. He has an NFL arm that is going to command respect. Just watching him throw those those deep out patterns to both sides of the field sunday was something to behold. Teams are going to be forced to play much different on defense with him under center. This offense will come together with him at the helm because with a little more work, he'll be able to execute Saunders offense to perfection. It's not always the playcaller, but the one executing the calls.

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