Gregg Williams has to go

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Sheriff Gonna Getcha
11-21-2006, 02:42 PM
If we blow up our staff or roster AGAIN I'm going to have to choke someone.

The Zimmermans
11-21-2006, 02:45 PM
I wouldn't put one person's reactoin to a bad season on the rest of us. No one really wants us to fire greg williams. ONE PERSON said that. Almost everyone has disagreed with that statement, there is no reason to change the coaching personnel. Most of the talk has been about getting better defensive talent, most fans would agree that we don't have enough talent on D.

BrunellMVP?
11-21-2006, 03:58 PM
Carlos Rogers Again gave up big play after big play...terrible...

SmootSmack
11-21-2006, 04:13 PM
If we blow up our staff or roster AGAIN I'm going to have to choke someone.

Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a b*tch

dmek25
11-21-2006, 04:15 PM
hahahaha

dall-assblows
11-21-2006, 04:18 PM
Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/)

Jason LaCanfora points out some of the serious mistakes that Gregg Williams has made in terms of personnel, and it seems that the defense is no longer playing hard under his leadership.

I think that Joe Gibbs is going to ask Williams to leave after the season. There isn't any way we can go forward with him at the helm. The players don't seem to respond to him, he has made some very poor personnel decisions, his fairness is in question, and the field tactics he uses may no longer be adequate.

thats re-tall-did

your an idiot

memphisskin
11-21-2006, 05:13 PM
GW of course was overly confident about his ability to plug people in and have them contribute. This year he blew it, but he's had a lot more successes than failures. Pierce was a backup outside linebacker stuck behind LaVar before GW. Matt Bowen was just as bad as AA in coverage and even worse in run support before GW came here, and before Bowen broke his leg he was leading the team in sacks. Cornelius Griffin, stud. Marcus Washington, stud. Shawn Sprins, stud. I mean did anyone outside of DC and his immediate family even know who Pierce was before GW? Or Ryan Clark?

I'm for stability, because I can't think of a single team that won with a revolving door. Even the Fire Sale Florida Marlins keep a team together for a few years and THEN dump folks. To think we could have kept Ryan Clark for less than AA's bonus makes me ill. But it makes sense, the revenues that Snyder brings in allows him to have this "Fugg u, I'll go get someone better" mentality.

I think the problem with our defense is that we have too many fat cats on defense. Fat cats would rather just eat and enjoy being fat, they aren't good at catching mice because they know they'll get fed regardless. But you get a skinny cat, feed him the bare minimum, and his instinct to eat will take over. Same with GW's defense. The principles haven't changed, full bore intensity, swarming the ball, giving urself up on every play so the team as a whole can succeed. But Snyder has set the tone here, he pays free agents and not Redskins, so its tough to get guys to really lay it on the line. I totally buy Snyder saying "we've learned our lesson" and then making AA the highest paid safefty in history.

We are our own worst enemy.

SouperMeister
11-21-2006, 05:25 PM
I believe it would be a major mistake for Gibbs to relieve either Williams or Saunders. The guys who should go are Gibbs cronies and hangers-on (Breaux, Simmons, etc). There are entirely too many cooks in the kitchen. If anything, let's keep coordinators in place for more than a couple seasons, find out which players want to be part of the solution, and rebuild from the trenches out via THE DRAFT. Missing on draft picks is far less damaging to the cap situation than missing on high priced free agents.

Beemnseven
11-21-2006, 06:13 PM
Here's the problem with the defense...

Cornelius Griffin: He's old. He was hot his first year in NY, then fizzled. The same thing is happening here.

Joe Salave'a: He's old. He was out of football for nearly two years. He would have been fine in rotation, but he's too old, and to often injured to be a full time starter at D-tackle.

Philip Daniels: He's old. He was a castoff from another team. Save for his explosion against Dallas last year, he's been taking up space.

Renaldo Wynn: He was old like three seasons ago. Can anyone explain to me how he's still on the team? Oh wait ... that's right. He’s a great leader.

Andre Carter: He's a bust. And please, PLEASE – spare me the newest line of B.S. that the reason he's not getting sacks is because of the D-tackles. He averaged 4.5 sacks a year in San Fran, and it's doubtful he’ll get that much in Washington.

Shawn Springs: Guess what? He's old too. I know he's a fan favorite, as are many on this list. But it’s time to face facts – most guys who play in this league cannot be competitive well past their 40's like Darrell Green was. Something tells me that there are people in this organization who believe they can count on Springs for the next ten years without missing a beat. He can't.

I’m not saying Williams is blameless. Any team with a record of 3-7 have coaches with some 'splaining to do. But when you're entire defensive line is old, your top cornerback is old, and the other corner is turning out to be a complete bust, you will have a bad defense. It's that simple. When Gregg Williams has the "Director of Player Personnel" behind his name, then we can talk about canning him.

Until then, let's lay off Gregg Williams.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
11-21-2006, 06:15 PM
When Gregg Williams has the "Director of Player Personnel" behind his name, then we can talk about canning him.

Until then, let's lay off Gregg Williams.

I have repeatedly defended Williams and will continue to do so. However, as the Post recently pointed out, Williams' hands are all over the personnel decisions.

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