irish
11-21-2006, 11:22 AM
I guess the question I would have to ask is if Gibbs left and another coach came in and again it didnt work out so Gibbs said he'll come back for a 3rd time, would skins fans be excited?
Gregg Williams has to goirish 11-21-2006, 11:22 AM I guess the question I would have to ask is if Gibbs left and another coach came in and again it didnt work out so Gibbs said he'll come back for a 3rd time, would skins fans be excited? Dogtag 11-21-2006, 11:37 AM I respect your opinion. However, I don't agree with it in this instance. I would definitely keep Coach Williams. I'm sure he is making a list of good players and not-so-good players ... and checking it twice. Jamaican'Skin 11-21-2006, 12:04 PM This has just been a season of everything that could possibly go wrong, went wrong. Yes It has been difficult to deal with, but all teams go thru a process like this. To fire a mainstay in the org doesn't make sense. We are trying to build stability in the organization, and it would be dumb diddly dumb to bring in a whole new defensive scheme for next year. celts32 11-21-2006, 12:14 PM Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/) Jason LaCanfora points out some of the serious mistakes that Gregg Williams has made in terms of personnel, and it seems that the defense is no longer playing hard under his leadership. I think that Joe Gibbs is going to ask Williams to leave after the season. There isn't any way we can go forward with him at the helm. The players don't seem to respond to him, he has made some very poor personnel decisions, his fairness is in question, and the field tactics he uses may no longer be adequate. This is absolutely rediculous...He carried the team the 1st couple seasons and now after one bad year he is overboard. I would give him a lesser say in talent evaluation but I would not let him go as coach. marius 11-21-2006, 12:18 PM This is absolutely rediculous...He carried the team the 1st couple seasons and now after one bad year he is overboard. I would give him a lesser say in talent evaluation but I would not let him go as coach. Too right. Williams kept this team afloat by building one of the best defenses in the league with a pretty average set of players. Realistically, he has one very good player (Washington) and one possibly great player (Taylor) and a lot of servicable players and he managed to create a great D. This year has been poor and he may have made mistakes but he has proved that he knows what he is doing. To get rid of him would be madness. On the issue of bringing the FAs in, how much say did he have? Longtimefan 11-21-2006, 12:38 PM Yeah, the irony is people want to make all these widespread wholesale changes yet at the same time complain that the organization has no stability and patience I really do not underdtand the constant contradiction. I concur with you that we constantly complain about the change and turnover leading to instability, but at the same time when things do not go as planned (or the way we think they should) we want to fire or get rid of someone we feel responsible. So far this season just about everyone associated with the team should be fired including the owner based on what I read here week in and week out. I guess it's just the frustration from loosing. Southpaw 11-21-2006, 12:49 PM Yeah, the irony is people want to make all these widespread wholesale changes yet at the same time complain that the organization has no stability and patience Agreed. It's like fans of the Redskins have adopted Snyder's approach at fixing problems. I don't get it. And as far as Williams, I do think he should take the majority of the blame for the poor performance of the defense, since he's the one pulling the strings. I also think he should be the one to fix the problems. He's had several top ten defenses in his career, two in the three seasons he's been in Washington, so I don't think he has all of the sudden forgotten how to coach a defense. 70Chip 11-21-2006, 12:58 PM These overreactions represent the inability of some fans to accept and cope with loss. They do not want to admit that the team just plain sucks so they engage in absurd rationalizations. It's the QB, it's the coaches, it's the all-white unis. Grow up and accept things the way they are. We suck, so enjoy the rest of the season for it's own sake. Williams may leave but he won't be fired. Saunders will not be fired. We probably will not be signing any big free-agents. We are looking at a multi-year process to restore our defense, develop Campbell, and become a contender again. Deal with it. irish 11-21-2006, 01:38 PM The redskins dont do anything multi- year. That would require building on a foundation that has been laid and building slowly is something that this organization has proved over and over again it has no interest in doing. BrunellMVP? 11-21-2006, 02:40 PM Wow. Talk about jumping the gun here. Think of the past two seasons under GW. The defense has been lights out. We were all so happy when we inked him for an extension in the offseason. If anyone made mistakes it was Snyder going out and attempting to upgrade the defense when it either wasn't needed and basically didn't work. The problem this season seems to be basically just a lack of skill on defense. I don't think this is GW's fault. Letting him go could be the worst move the team could make at this point. Lights out? last year? don't think so...the rankings system is flawed, the skins always give up a ton of yards at the most inopportune times...and points when we need a stand. this is how its been this year and last year. As for snyder's influence, true in the past, not true recently...Williams wanted these guys...he asked for them... my whole problem with williams is that he refuses to alter his scheme to fit his players, rather he sticks to his ridged philosophy...the great coaches get the most out of their players...they design plans where their players can excel, williams (nor saunders- but i'll give him time) is not doing that. he's so blinded by his own genius that he won't do whats best for the team...which is to alter the system catered towards individual strengths. |
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