Gibbs looks angry during press conference

I for one am glad to see him show some anger. He didn't stand by his old b.s. rhetoric, "fighting guts out", etc. It was refreshing. Now that he doesn't have to defend Brunell, I think he's freed up to be more honest about the team.

I'm happy about it too. Don't get me wrong, I love how loyal Gibbs is to his players, but I'm hoping his anger will light a fire under some asses. I just hope he doesn't get so frustrated that he entertains thoughts of retirement.

It is funny how some of you guys can't get passed this thing with Joe Gibbs and Mark Brunell, but you can completely ignore the fact that the real reasons why we're losing games are the defense and the inconsistent playcalling from Al Saunders. I'll admit, I was very excited to see Al Saunders coming here, but this team wins with Joe Gibbs football, and they're not playing Joe Gibbs football.

A side note...I think Jason Campbell played more than well enough to have won us a ball game,but he has completely NO HELP from anybody else with the exception of Loyd, ARE, and Cooley.

GW has always said his first priority is to stop the run, but we can't do that for some reason. I think the problem with the defense is that very few of those guys are hungry. We need a couple of UFA's to balance it out and get the energy up.

Gibbs should be pissed, most of those runs were straight ahead and those are "manhood" issues. I mean the Bucs had no running game for most of the year and they run on us like that? And with no running game we had to rely on Campbell a lot more, and he still produced.

NO HELP from anybody else with the exception of Loyd, ARE, and Cooley.

Cooley, Ok. But Lloyd and ARE both dropped passes that would have been first downs. Lloyd's was especially costly.

There was one pass thrown to Loyd that he caught and would have came down in bounce, however he was forced out and the refs called it an incomplete pass. I'm talking about the inconsistent running game and playcalling. It's almost as if they're just drawing plays out of a hat. I think we should've kept with Joe Gibbs offense from a year ago and just added the receivers.

I said it in another thread, I think he was calling out Saunders and GW a bit today. Anyone else get that feeling?

Yup! I heard it that way, too. He was calling out the coaches. I think he was challenging Saunders more. I mean, come on; 20 rushing attempts (5 by the QB) in a close game. That's not running the ball. You don't control the game clock when your pass:run ratio is 34:20.

Could say the same about the defense, but stopping the run is not a new issue. Letting a team you could/should have beat run for 181 yards and control the clock for 36 minutes is "not the principles we abide by."

I'm talking about the inconsistent running game and playcalling. It's almost as if they're just drawing plays out of a hat. I think we should've kept with Joe Gibbs offense from a year ago and just added the receivers.

Wasn't it Joe Gibbs who wanted Al Saunders in here? Plays often look like they've been "drawn out of a hat" when the players who run them don't execute.

It is funny how some of you guys can't get passed this thing with Joe Gibbs and Mark Brunell, but you can completely ignore the fact that the real reasons why we're losing games are the defense and the inconsistent playcalling from Al Saunders. I'll admit, I was very excited to see Al Saunders coming here, but this team wins with Joe Gibbs football, and they're not playing Joe Gibbs football.

A side note...I think Jason Campbell played more than well enough to have won us a ball game,but he has completely NO HELP from anybody else with the exception of Loyd, ARE, and Cooley. We are losing games because of the guys that GIBBS wanted . Gibbs brought these players in here , and he brought in Saunders . Gibbs is they guy willing to trade draft picks like they are worthless . And he keeps talking about character ,, Moss and Taylor have committed about a dozen personal fouls this year . If character is so important , why do we keep going the the " U " for talent ? Moss , ya he is really tough sitting out again , he could have run some plays to help JC . JC looked good , now we need some help on the OL , DL , LB and DB's .

A side note...I think Jason Campbell played more than well enough to have won us a ball game,but he has completely NO HELP from anybody else with the exception of Loyd, ARE, and Cooley.

Randle El had one catch for 14 yards. He started today right? Was he #2 or #3 behind Thrash and Lloyd?

Maybe it was inexperience at QB combined with a good pass defense? At what point do we start raising some eyebrows at Randle El's production as a wideout?

Yup! I heard it that way, too. He was calling out the coaches. I think he was challenging Saunders more. I mean, come on; 20 rushing attempts (5 by the QB) in a close game. That's not running the ball. You don't control the game clock when your pass:run ratio is 34:20.

Could say the same about the defense, but stopping the run is not a new issue. Letting a team you could/should have beat run for 181 yards and control the clock for 36 minutes is "not the principles we abide by."

Why is he calling out Sanders? We got behind and a lot of the throws came on the last drive. Plus we couldn't run the ball. If Gibbs has a problem with the play calling then he should take it over himself. Yes he was mad and it's about time. He should be mad getting becasue there is no way TB should run the ball for almost 200 yards. But the main problem is we just don't have the horses and throwing away the picks has really hurt the depth. So Gibbs has no one to blame but himself.