Who got the better of the Portis/Bailey trade?

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hooskins
11-16-2006, 11:35 PM
He was also asking for alot of money and we had to look future. He is getting old now, doesnt have too many years left.

And despite what everyone is saying, Rogers IS getting better.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace
11-16-2006, 11:49 PM
trung candidate...enough said

celts32
11-17-2006, 12:11 AM
Denver won the trade because of the extra pick that turned into Bell. If it were even up CP for CB as it should have been I would call it a draw...

SpeedyDuncan
11-17-2006, 12:23 AM
Several years ago, I heard from a friend, who had a friend that knew Champ Bailey, that Champ Bailey said he was going to leave the Redskins when his contract was up. My reaction was, Bullshit! He's our top pick, etc.

Sure enough, when Champ's deal was up he basically forced a trade. I don't think he would have re-signed with us for any amount of money.

We were fortunate to get anything for him.

I think it was a 2nd round pick for Portis and the exclusive right to negotiate with Champ.

The draft is overrated. There are some teams who know how to pick good players. Many do not. I would trade any team's second round pick for Portis. I read about how the importance of the draft then think of Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Andre Ware, Blair Thomas, Gary Beban, etc...

There's no guarantee in the draft. I believe that consistent solid drafting is a solid way to build a team. But some teams will never get it done that way. Since George Allen, The Redskins haven't done it this way. There was a great draft early in the Gibbs/Beathard era (1981 - May,Grimm, Manley,Charlie Brown, Didier) that helped the Redskins to their glory years. But, for the most part, our teams were built with free agents or trades. Recently,when we have had picks we took Heath Shuler, Michael Westbrook, Rod Gardner,Patrick Ramsey, Taylor Jacobs and (sadly on this list) Lavar Arrington.

Let's hope the players we have drafted since Joe Gibbs returned (Sean Taylor, Chris Cooley, Carlos Rogers, Jason Campbell, Rocky McIntosh) fare better. From 1999 through 2003, The Skins had 32 draft picks (including 1st round 2,3 in 2000). Only 4 of those players are on the roster. We had picks. I think Taylor, Cooley and Rogers will be solid. I'm pulling hard for Jason Campbell. Rocky is a rookie. I don't feel like he's going to be a bust.

Some of the 'so called' smart teams (Patriots, Steelers) benefit from other teams stupidity and end up with Polamalu, Roethlisberger, Maroney and other players who drop while other teams pick Robert Gallery (insert bust here).

Redskins got someting for nothing.

SmootSmack
11-17-2006, 12:41 AM
Gonna go back in time! Is it Throwback Thread Thursday?

Gmanc711
11-17-2006, 12:41 AM
Its a wash. Straight Simple. You cant look soley at this year because Portis was hurt. Bailey didnt want to be here, Portis was an incredible addition to our team, end of story, cut and dry. The 2nd rounder is questionable but otherwise, its a wash. Bailey has been great for them, Portis great for us.

That Guy
11-17-2006, 01:49 AM
at the time keeping champ was NOT an option, so the question was would you rather get portis? was someone else available? or would you end up with nothing?

once lavar got his money, champ was gone, and if we waited to long he wouldn't have had any trade value, since his contract would expire.

GTripp0012
11-17-2006, 02:06 AM
That is why I am sick of it. People are just looking for blame where there isnt any.So true...

Portis certainly has nothing to do with our failures. Well...he does, but only because he's hurt and has been hurt the entire season.

As for the trade, it was certainly a great one for Denver, and it's been a good one for us. Same as I expect the JC deal to be.

The great thing about trades in the NFL is that both teams can get a good deal. That's obviously not always the case (how happy do you think the Jets are to have Coles right now?), but in many cases, trades help both teams.

vaoutlaws2006
11-17-2006, 07:43 AM
there are some real bone heads on this site. even with giving a draft pick up to get CP we didnt get the short end of the stick with the trade. CP carried this team on his back last season. The last year bailey was here smoot outplayed him. PERIOD.

irish
11-17-2006, 08:14 AM
Last year I thought the skins go thte better of the deal but this year it seems as if denver did so I guess that means on average the trade has been even.

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