Redskins, Jaguars interested in Ogunleye

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MonkManiac
06-21-2004, 01:19 PM
young, intimdiating threat on the dline?? whens the last time we had that? even Champ Bailey couldn't cover forever or a perfect pass cuz the line applied no pressure.

he's young AND proven (like Lav Coles was). DEs in drafts are too much of a crapshoot in the NFL. it IS the missing piece and THIS is the guy.

Isn't this the Big Daddy/Stubblefield argument? The point that has been made about productivity as a result of being part of a stud unit is well-taken. I like Oguleye, but he is not THE missing piece.

skinsfanthru&thru
06-21-2004, 02:01 PM
there's no way anyone's gonna offer miami a 1st and 3rd now with ogunleye looking like a sure hold out in miami. if no one was willing to give miami that much before all of this, they sure as heck aren't going to now when miami has less leverage. i'll wait to hear what type of offers r in the mix to determine how much is too much or too little, but I think ogunleye would be an incredible addition to our d-line and maybe we can finally cut loose wynn's enormous salary for his rather low production. plus isn't ogunleye around 22 or 23? and they say d-lineman r the hardest players to judge coming out of college so if we can use our soon to be late round 1st round pick to get a talented, young de, then that doesn't sound to bad to me.

SKINSnCANES
06-21-2004, 02:04 PM
mabye a first would be fair to offer for him. And it would be a huge upgrade for us this year. But look how much fun the draft was thsi year because we had a pick in the first round. Plus we need to save teh cap space, rookies are the best way to do that. A late first round rookie doesnt cost hardly anything. Where as Ogunlye wants somewhere between 16 and 30 million of upfront money.

illdefined
06-21-2004, 02:18 PM
after Snyder FINALLY learned his lesson in not getting flashy players or big names, but young, NFL proven guys with chips on their shoulders and something to prove, i think Ogunleye is the man. in the most sorely needed spot too.

i dont care how fun the DRAFT will be, which is still a total gamble, i would rather have fun during the SEASON with Ogunleye and Arrington pinching QBs.

skinsfanthru&thru
06-21-2004, 02:22 PM
mabye a first would be fair to offer for him. And it would be a huge upgrade for us this year. But look how much fun the draft was thsi year because we had a pick in the first round. Plus we need to save teh cap space, rookies are the best way to do that. A late first round rookie doesnt cost hardly anything. Where as Ogunlye wants somewhere between 16 and 30 million of upfront money.

but then the flipside to that is the unknown aspect of that drafted player translating his success to the nfl versus a proven young player at a position that is hard to find a solid playmaker at very often. I think a solid 5-6 year deal with a 11-15 million $ signing bonus isn't as bad as wasting a pick, contract, and roster spot on a player who may or may not pan out.
plus i'd rather win than watch the draft show, lol.

SmootSmack
06-21-2004, 02:37 PM
The draft was only fun this year because it was the 5th overall pick, and for you Canes it was especially fun because we were deciding between Taylor and Winslow. But, like others have said, I'd rather have fun in the regular season and pick near the end of the first round, if not the very end

Redskins_P
06-21-2004, 02:37 PM
I don't see anything fun about the draft next year. First of all the Redskins won't pick until the 32nd pick. Plus, adding a guy like Ogunleye we really won't need to draft anyone that high. We would basically draft for depth.


I think we can give up a 1st rounder and give them Wynn.

illdefined
06-21-2004, 02:39 PM
Wynn AND Brunell for Ogunleye :Smoker:

SKINSnCANES
06-21-2004, 02:43 PM
If we keep getting players we dont draft it will be hard to have depth because we will have so many huge contracts. Rookies dont get huge contracts. Id like us to get him but the fact we havent had many young talents in recent years that we are drafting is going to hurt us. Gardner is almost due for a new contract. Smoot is due after this season. Ramsey has two years left on his rookie contract. We arent going to be able to keep those players and have depth if we have a lot of big name players. Players arent gong to want to redo their contracts every three years.

SKINSnCANES
06-21-2004, 02:49 PM
Wynn AND Brunell for Ogunleye :Smoker:


haha, it if wasnt for the what, eight million dollar cap hit wed get for releasing brunell.

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