Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

well, on the same site it shows drive stats which are conveniently ignored (we punt a LOT, we score very rarely etc). of course, they counter the whole, brunell is a god according the the stats argument. at FBO our run game is rated well, and moss and cooley (as receivers) have a good DVOA... which would show that brunell possibly IS the problem.

I mean, FBO also said that kevin jones would be the league MVP last year (oops) and that their research in college->pro transitions at QB would indicate that kyle boller would be the best QB EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME (which they say is obviouly not true). stats alone aren't enough, unless you've got ungodly amounts to cover every possible situation. that's not what DVOA does (not by itself), since it can't distinguish meaningful yards from garbage time or scoring % (yeah QBs get credit for TDs/INTs, but RB rushing TDs they helped set up aren't counted, or FGs, or punts, and fumbles aren't really weighted).

well, on the same site it shows drive stats which are conveniently ignored (we punt a LOT, we score very rarely etc). of course, they counter the whole, brunell is a god according the the stats argument. at FBO our run game is rated well, and moss and cooley (as receivers) have a good DVOA... which would show that brunell possibly IS the problem.

I mean, FBO also said that kevin jones would be the league MVP last year (oops) and that their research in college->pro transitions at QB would indicate that kyle boller would be the best QB EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME (which they say is obviouly not true). stats alone aren't enough, unless you've got ungodly amounts to cover every possible situation. that's not what DVOA does (not by itself), since it can't distinguish meaningful yards from garbage time or scoring % (yeah QBs get credit for TDs/INTs, but RB rushing TDs they helped set up aren't counted, or FGs, or punts, and fumbles aren't really weighted).Kyle Boller's projection is REALLY low (he's outplayed his projection by 2 DPAR/G). I don't know where you found him projected as the greatest QB ever, but in the Prospectus, he's projected at lower than 1 DPAR/G. That's similar to Ryan Leaf's projection in terms of horribleness.

But at absolute worst, they are just one more opinion, so it's cool if you don't subscribe to them.

stats do not make a good qb. results make a good qb.

I get the feeling, though, that you look at these responses everyday and laugh at all the people taking you seriously... and I would respect that position much more than the one you're taking....

please tell me its true!But what are stats? They certainly aren't measures of physical talent, or expierence, leadership, heart and desire etc.

They only measure the results. It's the only thing they are good for.

So yes, results are what makes a good QB. Tis true.

But if the only result that mattered was wins and losses...why even watch the game? Why doesn't the team with the better record win the game every time?

Bottom line is you have to win games in this league. And if you aren't winning games, you have to fix the problems. If you don't you will continue to lose.

And then the fans get restless.

Yes, I watch the games...not just the Redskins but all televised games. I have learned a lot from watching games...but eventaully you need to expand your horizions beyond that of the games to learn more.

I'd venture to say I watch more football than anyone else here (its my life)...but of course I can't know that for sure. Hopefully that's demonstrated in my posts. If not, go to my user profile and read some of my offseason posts.

Kyle Boller's projection is REALLY low (he's outplayed his projection by 2 DPAR/G). I don't know where you found him projected as the greatest QB ever, but in the Prospectus, he's projected at lower than 1 DPAR/G. That's similar to Ryan Leaf's projection in terms of horribleness.

But at absolute worst, they are just one more opinion, so it's cool if you don't subscribe to them.

not his DPAR, the whole college starts + college completion % = better NFL QB (it's what you quote when you say campbell is going to be great).

I hate to sound blindly optimistic, but look at the nfc, the division schedule & we have a chance. granted, it will take winning 6 of 7 at least, but its still a chance. the D has started to gell, since that stallworth td, & just maybe JC is good enough to get the O to score 17 - 20 a game. Other teams are flailing too in the nfc. We're only 3 games out of 1st & 2 back from the cowpokes, who also happen to be 1-3 in the div.
What if we win 2 in a row, are 5-6 (sound familiar?) and the div. leader is 6-5? Is it still over?


gotta love the optimism. with no cp thats going to be a stretch. but adding JC to the mix who supposedly can make all the throws..i guess you never know. as the cliche goes...any given sunday. but my god we will need alot of those "any given sunday's"

Jeez are we really still talking about this?

Campbell is now the starter, let's move on.

Seriously!! Sheesh!

Even I have accepted it!

not his DPAR, the whole college starts + college completion % = better NFL QB (it's what you quote when you say campbell is going to be great).I know what I'm quoting. No, his (Boller's) completion % was awful in college. Thus he's projected awful.

Are you sure you are talking about Kyle Boller?

Yes, I watch the games...not just the Redskins but all televised games. I have learned a lot from watching games...but eventaully you need to expand your horizions beyond that of the games to learn more.

I'd venture to say I watch more football than anyone else here (its my life)...but of course I can't know that for sure. Hopefully that's demonstrated in my posts. If not, go to my user profile and read some of my offseason posts.

ok, i'll bite, how is it your life GTripp? sounds like you want to tell us.

i apologize, it was tim couch that was supposed to be gangbusters. mcnabb was also projected to be much much worse than he is, but his speed makes up for it i'd assume... plummer also projects to be quite a bit better than he actually is as well.

the one thing thats hard to judge coming into the nfl is a quarterbacks ability to make plays. thats why mcnabb, peyton manning, and favre are soo sucessful. turning crap into gold. no one knows if campbell will be able to do this, yet