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Not to get into an argument GT, but I think you're looking at it from the wrong end.

Brandon Lloyd's DPAR -0.4
Antwaan Randle El's DPAR -0.2
Chris Cooley DPAR 2.9

How often have we seen MB complete consecutive average to long passes this season. We haven't. If you have WR's running downfield and no ball arriving who's that on?It's DPAR. Those numbers are unaffected by balls that go other places. I don't know the exact formula, but the point of WR DPAR is to try to seperate it from that of the QB. When a guy like Moss can put up such a high number (producing a point every game more than a replacement WR is huge. WRs don't touch the ball much compared to RBs and QBs), and has no help from the other guys. (I know they don't get thrown to all that much, but the point is it's negative. Negative means they are costing their team PPG over a replacement player. Granted a -.04 and -.02 havent lost us any games, but they couldn't have possibly helped win them).

There really isn't an arguement. Before we had a passing game (it was stronger than our running game), but now without Portis and Brunell, we have neither. Just a young guy, which is a good thing. What is going to happen to our offense Sunday...isn't.

I think, as Gibbs said, they will tailor the offense to Jason's ( and ladell's for that matter) strengths. I am sure we will see some deep throws, more than we have.

GTripp,

It's starting to almost sound like you want to see the offense flounder just so you can say "I told you so."

If the offense scores more than 3 points (which you predict), will you just chalk it up to Tampa playing poorly, the playcalling being better, or other offensive players executing better? My guess is yes. I cannot see you praising Campbell.

BTW, I'm not meaning to act like a jerk, even if this post seems like I am one.

This thread has turned into a statistical comedy.

I just find it interesting that now Brunell will be supporting Campbell much like Ramsey supported him when was yanked and had to cheer from the sidelines.
This shouldn't be too hard of a pill for Brunell to swallow actually.

Who would have thought, both him and Ramsey are now riding the pine.

where did the 'bad luck' stat, the 'shitty game entitlement' stat, and the 'rainy, away, division game' stat go?

where did the 'bad luck' stat, the 'shitty game entitlement' stat, and the 'rainy, away, division game' stat go?Those are known as the discrepencies between stats and reality. My explinations for them. "Observations" if you will.

GTripp,

It's starting to almost sound like you want to see the offense flounder just so you can say "I told you so."

If the offense scores more than 3 points (which you predict), will you just chalk it up to Tampa playing poorly, the playcalling being better, or other offensive players executing better? My guess is yes. I cannot see you praising Campbell.

BTW, I'm not meaning to act like a jerk, even if this post seems like I am one.

I don't think Campbell will put "explosive" numbers for the first few games at least. I hope I'm wrong and he sets the world on fire starting this Sunday. I'm sure many others, including yourself, feel the same way.

But we both know there are those here (whether it was re: Ramsey, re: Brunell, re: whoever) who would rather be right and see the team lose than wrong and see the team win. I know I'll get accused of questioning the "fanhood" of some people but it's the truth.

GTripp,

It's starting to almost sound like you want to see the offense flounder just so you can say "I told you so."

If the offense scores more than 3 points (which you predict), will you just chalk it up to Tampa playing poorly, the playcalling being better, or other offensive players executing better? My guess is yes. I cannot see you praising Campbell.

BTW, I'm not meaning to act like a jerk, even if this post seems like I am one.Nah, you are hardly being a jerk.

All your points are fair. It's funny cause this is exactly what everyone else was sounding like to me all these weeks. They pretty much were waiting for Brunell to fail. Took awhile, but he did in fact crap out vs. Phili. Looks like the rolls have changed now.

I like Jason Campbell. He was a good pick and will be a great NFL QB. It's not going to happen overnight, which is how long it took to bench Brunell. So now as our schedule softens, we are going to drain all hope of making the playoffs. I am irritated about it. I didn't wait through the offseason so we could have the same amount of losses we had all of last season before giving up.

If the offense scores more points, I'll do the same thing I've always done. I'll investigate deeper into the game, try to explain to the rest of you why what happened did, and either be laughed out of the room or praised.

Either way, I'll be true to myself.

But we both know there are those here (whether it was re: Ramsey, re: Brunell, re: whoever) who would rather be right and see the team lose than wrong and see the team win. I know I'll get accused of questioning the "fanhood" of some people but it's the truth.I hope you guys don't think that includes me. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I don't think Campbell will put "explosive" numbers for the first few games at least. I hope I'm wrong and he sets the world on fire starting this Sunday. I'm sure many others, including yourself, feel the same way.

But we both know there are those here (whether it was re: Ramsey, re: Brunell, re: whoever) who would rather be right and see the team lose than wrong and see the team win. I know I'll get accused of questioning the "fanhood" of some people but it's the truth.

I definately don't expect to see Campbell light up opposing defenses. My guess is that he struggles for the first 5 games or so and starts to "come on" at the very end of the season.

I didn't mean to question GTripp's fandom. I know that GTripp loves the team and always wants to see them win. I just think there will be a certain part of him that will enjoy seeing Campbell struggle.

As a recovering Ramseyfan, I know all about trying to see the good in a particular player, even when they are playing poorly. That said, when Brunell started playing well last season, I gave him props and didn't particularly mourn Ramsey's departure. I would just like to see GTripp do the same with Brunell; admit Brunell isn't even an average QB (I'm not laying all or even most of the team's woes on Brunell), doesn't deserve to start, and wish his successor the best.