Take 70Chip's Mark Brunell Rorshock Test

i'm still waiting for a response to this.

I saw McNabb and Randle El throw tight long passes in that same weather. should Brunell take any responsibility at all for 'trailing early'? and as for 'defensive scheme that attacks'...well that sounds like all NFL defenses, technically so does ours.

i think it's an utterly ridiculous case. especially the part where we OWE Brunell another chance, when his whole career as a Redskin has been exactly that. you don't bring in a QB when the team is struggling? when do you bring them in exactly? when they're doing great? ask Parcells about that, he knows a bit about coaching i hear.

you have more than another thing coming if you think Brunell is going to win out this season. hasn't he demoralized the fans and the team enough?

I REALLY can't begin to explain to you why the check downs to Betts aren't the problem. A decent percentage of them are successful. Those that are futile would have been throwaways with last year's philosophy. Those are the basic points, I may just go in depth in this week's Weekly Tripp.

I don't think that the checkdowns themselves are a problem. What is a problem is that 3/4 passing plays are check downs to backs in the flats or throwaways. You simply can't have an effective offense without an intermediate to deep passing attack. Our team is simply unbalanced, opposing defenses know it, and they are attacking.

I'm a solid 2 bordering on a 1.. Let's take an objective look at Brunell.. In the past 4 years he's been benched twice by 2 different franchises, in his last 7 seasons his record is 7-9, 6-10, 6-10, 0-4, 3-6, 9-6, 3-6. Other than last year he hasn't been a successful NFL QB THIS DECADE!!!!! In his Redskin career (40 games) he has thrown for 3 or more TD 4 times. He has thrown for less than 250 yds 17 times since the beginning of last season. Someone please convince me how he gives us the best chance to win..

I think the difference between myself and GTripp is that he does not believe the season is lost and I now do. I didn't think that it was before today, and I didn't think they had to win every game to salvage it, but I thought they needed to use the emotion of the Dallas win to propel them to win a few in a row. They don't seem to have a run in them.

I would say further that regardless of what happens with Brunell, at the end of the season, they should thank Saunders for all his hard work and send him on his way.Good...neh great point. Most of the difference in opinion is that the season is over.

But this game was a disaster going in. Phili is money coming off the bye, had homefield on us, and that was when we HAD Portis. Expecting us, much less anyone, to win in these conditions would have been wishful thinking.

That said, if the season wasn't over BEFORE this game, why is it now? We did get crushed...but it's not something I was unprepared for. I don't think it's going to linger with us, theres no evidence to support the argument that it will. It's just one more in the L column, nothing more.

Let's take to diapers off JC and frickin play the guy. Enough is enough.lol. You sound like Dick Vermeil.

Not that theres anything wrong with that.

In the past 4 years he's been benched twice by 2 different franchises, in his last 7 seasons his record is 7-9, 6-10, 6-10, 0-4, 3-6, 9-6, 3-6. Other than last year he hasn't been a successful NFL QB THIS DECADE!!!!! In his Redskin career (40 games) he has thrown for 3 or more TD 4 times. He has thrown for less than 250 yds 17 times since the beginning of last season. Someone please convince me how he gives us the best chance to win..

Jesus those are bad numbers. A record of 44-56 is awful and, excluding last season, a record of 34-50 is downright pathetic.

Good...neh great point. Most of the difference in opinion is that the season is over.

But this game was a disaster going in. Phili is money coming off the bye, had homefield on us, and that was when we HAD Portis. Expecting us, much less anyone, to win in these conditions would have been wishful thinking.

That said, if the season wasn't over BEFORE this game, why is it now? We did get crushed...but it's not something I was unprepared for. I don't think it's going to linger with us, theres no evidence to support the argument that it will. It's just one more in the L column, nothing more.

I think when the season started most would have said this would be a tough win, even if all units played well. Unfortunately, when you lose an "easy" win like the Titans game suddenly a tough win becomes a must win. Losing the games we're "expected" to lose would, I think, be easier to deal with if we won the games we're supposed to win.

I don't think that the checkdowns themselves are a problem. What is a problem is that 3/4 passing plays are check downs to backs in the flats or throwaways. You simply can't have an effective offense without an intermediate to deep passing attack. Our team is simply unbalanced, opposing defenses know it, and they are attacking.


Just for the record, that swing pass to Betts where Brunell backpedals from center is not a checkdown. That play is designed for Betts all the way. They ran it at least three times today. There were other times when he did check down to Betts, Sellers, etc., but the really annoying play has Betts as the first and only option. They ran it on third down against Dallas in the Red Zone last week (knocked out at the 4) and I looked at it about fifty times to see if anyone else was running a real route and it looked as though they were all just clearing out for the swing route. Not Brunell's choice.

I REALLY can't begin to explain to you why the check downs to Betts aren't the problem. A decent percentage of them are successful. Those that are futile would have been throwaways with last year's philosophy. Those are the basic points, I may just go in depth in this week's Weekly Tripp.

And what's with this talking down to me? I didn't do that to you last week when you were WAY off.

decent percentage of check downs are successful?, is that what our QB should be aiming for? is that the measure of a good offense? how are the stats of Moss, Lloyd, ARE, Cooley and Portis this year? does Brunell factor at all in that?

you certainly did talk down to me last week, calling all my arguments subjective and not backed by numbers (just like weather conditions, playing away, and division games aren't a stat). i started last week giving big props to Brunell for that game, check again - but i was looking at the season as a whole when we started arguing about how well Brunell leads this offense.

Just for the record, that swing pass to Betts where Brunell backpedals from center is not a checkdown. That play is designed for Betts all the way. They ran it at least three times today. There were other times when he did check down to Betts, Sellers, etc., but the really annoying play has Betts as the first and only option. They ran it on third down against Dallas in the Red Zone last week (knocked out at the 4) and I looked at it about fifty times to see if anyone else was running a real route and it looked as though they were all just clearing out for the swing route. Not Brunell's choice.

Yeah, I realize that Saunders' calls Betts' number on some plays, but there are still a ton of check-downs to Betts.