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backrow 11-12-2006, 10:34 PM It only took this year's first game to convince me MB has lost it.
By the way, J.Campbell is a Christian as well as MB, HOF Coach Gibbs, and many Redskins players.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-12-2006, 10:39 PM I love the "Fedayeen Ramsey" bit.
BrudLee 11-12-2006, 10:46 PM I'm a solid #2 now. It's clear that Brunell - who has disguised his inability to zip it downfield at all anymore until the last few games - has done all he can with this team. He has thrown the checkdowns with great accuracy. We needed more than checkdowns today, and he didn't have it. The only passes that have gone longer than 20 yards have been thrown by Randle El, and the "long balls" to Cooley last week and Lloyd this week had nothing on them at all.
He isn't losing these games - we find planty of ways to do that. But he damn sure isn't winning them, and we need to find out if anyone can win them... now.
SmootSmack 11-12-2006, 10:52 PM I'll say #2. But a big reason is that I don't think Brunell needs to go through this anymore. I almost feel sorry for him. The man has had a career few QBs have had. He doesn't need this anymore. All that was left for him was a ring. That isn't realistically going to happen now.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-12-2006, 10:54 PM I'll say #2. But a big reason is that I don't think Brunell needs to go through this anymore. I almost feel sorry for him. The man has had a career few QBs have had. He doesn't need this anymore. All that was left for him was a ring. That isn't realistically going to happen now.
I definately feel bad for the guy. As much as I disdain him for what he has done on the field, he's been a classy guy.
skinsguy 11-12-2006, 11:24 PM Probably #2. Like someone else said, if we had the defense this year we had last year, I'd probably still be at #3.
skinsfan69 11-12-2006, 11:29 PM #2. They should have benched Brunell the day after last season. Does anyone remember the last half of last year? Brunell was terrible! It is a struggle for Brunell to throw for 200 yards. I mean he threw for 41 yards against TB in the playoffs. How can Gibbs look himself in the mirror and think Brunell can take this team to the Super Bowl? I mean look what Rivers did today. Brought his team back on the road. Brunell just can't do that. I said this in another post. Sometimes there comes a time in a season where your QB just has to win a game or two for you. Bring you back from behind. Things aren't going right, your behind on the road and you have to lean on your QB to make plays for you. Well if we get behind then the game is basically over. AT LEAST JC has the physical ability and the skills to make things happen. Either with his arm or legs. If Gibbs starts Brunell next week then I WILL NOT watch the TB game. I've simply had enough.
GTripp0012 11-12-2006, 11:34 PM I'm still a #3 because absolutely no QB in the league would have won this game for us, but Brunell was dreadful today. He was put in the worst possible conditions (Bad weather, on the road, in the division, Portis out, trailing early, questionable playcalling, defensive scheme that attacks) and played exactly the way I would expect a guy put in those conditions to play. Ties the first Dallas game for ineptitude, although the deck was stacked heavily against him. The interception should never have been thrown.
I wouldn't make the switch this week for multiple reasons. Number 1, you don't want to break Jason Campbell in on the road when the team isn't playing well. Number 2, it would be a significant injustice to Mark Brunell to bench him after forcing him into the situation that the coaching staff and team did. Number 3, we will never play another game that is this difficult to win this season. So although we have next to nil chance to win the division, a wild card berth is a possibility if we win out against a schedule where we have all of our tough games at home, where weve been right in every contest over the last two seasons. It still would be a bad decision to try to have Campbell save the season.
The switch is certainly on the horizion though. If we as a team can't beat Tampa Bay, the switch should be made. I'm guessing this is the way Gibbs is thinking right now.
But if you are relying on a 2nd year inexpirenced player to save the franchise, you have another thing coming.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-12-2006, 11:42 PM GTripp,
No QB could have won that game for us? That's a little bit of an overstatement. The defense gave up 20 points. I think there are a lot of teams that could put up 20+ points on the Eagles.
So Brunell gets a pass because the weather was bad and he was on the road in a division game. I hate to break it to you, but you are EXPECTED to play well, even if it is wet outside, you are playing an away game, or are playing in your division.
Also, Philly plays an agressive style of defense, but Burnell wasn't exactly forcing them to back off. Does ANYONE in the league respect our deep pasing game? Nope. Brunell bears some of the blame for opponents attacking.
What situation did the coaches put Brunell in? They are to blame for the rain? They are to blame for the road game? They are to blame for having our team play division opponents?
No one thinks Campbell is going to save our season, Brunell and others have lost it for us. It's just time to start working towards the future.
illdefined 11-12-2006, 11:46 PM I'm still a #3 because absolutely no QB in the league would have won this game for us, but Brunell was dreadful today. He was put in the worst possible conditions (Bad weather, on the road, in the division, Portis out, trailing early, questionable playcalling, defensive scheme that attacks) and played exactly the way I would expect a guy put in those conditions to play. Ties the first Dallas game for ineptitude, although the deck was stacked heavily against him. The interception should never have been thrown.
I wouldn't make the switch this week for multiple reasons. Number 1, you don't want to break Jason Campbell in on the road when the team isn't playing well. Number 2, it would be a significant injustice to Mark Brunell to bench him after forcing him into the situation that the coaching staff and team did. Number 3, we will never play another game that is this difficult to win this season. So although we have next to nil chance to win the division, a wild card berth is a possibility if we win out against a schedule where we have all of our tough games at home, where weve been right in every contest over the last two seasons. It still would be a bad decision to try to have Campbell save the season.
The switch is certainly on the horizion though. If we as a team can't beat Tampa Bay, the switch should be made. I'm guessing this is the way Gibbs is thinking right now.
But if you are relying on a 2nd year inexpirenced player to save the franchise, you have another thing coming.
:eek:
and the rings of Saturn weren't aligned with it's second moon. i've never heard more excuses for a player's performance. ever.
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