Give Props to Brunell

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BrunellMVP?
11-07-2006, 10:23 AM
thats all that should matter to ant redskin fan. there are no so called style points


agreed. We are 3-5.

That Guy
11-07-2006, 11:07 AM
Tripp, it's been explained ad infinitum. it's YAC - that's a stat, so start doing some serious subtraction. maybe if Distance Thrown was a stat, you would pay attention. maybe if stats only applied when In Contention (and not garbage time) you would stop basing Brunell's HOF application based on his 'stellar' numbers.

beware the number crunchers.


not only that, when i looked at the deep throw chart TAFKAS threw up, guys like peyton threw 50% more deep passes and completed 50% more as well as having a lower int % on deep balls. if you go through the play by plays, they keep track of deep passes and shorter passes that go for big gains.

sometimes it seems like GTripp doesn't even bother watching the games, and just looks at the stat lines instead.

and GT, you're arguement that the lack of possessions is what's making the offense look bad is crap. brunell has more attempts this year (in 8 games) than he had in 9 in 2004 (with a great defense), and he's on track to have more than he had in 2005 (with a good defense), and he'll be sacked less too.

and before you project out how this year's stats will be better than last years - they won't. brunell fades down the stretch, and when we started winning last year, it was in part because we took the ball out of his hands and ran it more...


first 8 starts in 2005: 34.8 passes per game, 4-4 record
-------------------- 320+ yards twice, 220+ 5 times
next 8 starts: 22.4 passes per game, 6-2 record
---------------- under 200 yards EIGHT times (under 160 6 times)

when brunell throws 27 times or less per game: 11-2
otherwise: 5-14

and no shit it's somewhat self-serving, but that doesn't seem to bother you (that whole correlation != causation thing).

Cheerful1
11-07-2006, 11:50 AM
Poor Brunell! lol .... ya gotta love him!
It's humorous to watch when he tries to "run the ball." He's the only player I know who looks as if he's running a marathon yet, only ends up moving .00012of a yard.
Why can't they make an exception and allow Mark the right's to a motorized scooter? lol

Longtimefan
11-07-2006, 12:53 PM
Brunell did his job - plain and simple. Didn't play outstanding but better than past weeks.

Key is that we won, that's all that matters to me.




Ever heard the saying "It's not always whether you win or loose, it's how you play the game" We won (seems like everybody's happy, including me) The coaches are not happy with the way we played the game.

Hog1
11-07-2006, 01:01 PM
Ever heard the saying "It's not always whether you win or loose, it's how you play the game" We won (seems like everybody's happy, including me) The coaches are not happy with the way we played the game.

Coaches at any level are Never happy with the game.

Longtimefan
11-07-2006, 01:16 PM
Coaches at any level are Never happy with the game.



Which means there's a lot of work left to be done, and a short time to do it.

Hog1
11-07-2006, 01:39 PM
True. I was lookig at our D standings (in some thread). Holy shit, what the hell happened? I mean, yah, we have some injuries.................but we are like last or close in several major categories. I am not a real stat geek as it does not encompass much of what it takes to win,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but HELL

rotahe39
11-07-2006, 09:09 PM
first 8 starts in 2005: 34.8 passes per game, 4-4 record
-------------------- 320+ yards twice, 220+ 5 times
next 8 starts: 22.4 passes per game, 6-2 record
---------------- under 200 yards EIGHT times (under 160 6 times)

when brunell throws 27 times or less per game: 11-2
otherwise: 5-14
.

Interesting stat i like it

steveo395
11-07-2006, 11:15 PM
not only that, when i looked at the deep throw chart TAFKAS threw up, guys like peyton threw 50% more deep passes and completed 50% more as well as having a lower int % on deep balls. if you go through the play by plays, they keep track of deep passes and shorter passes that go for big gains.

sometimes it seems like GTripp doesn't even bother watching the games, and just looks at the stat lines instead.

and GT, you're arguement that the lack of possessions is what's making the offense look bad is crap. brunell has more attempts this year (in 8 games) than he had in 9 in 2004 (with a great defense), and he's on track to have more than he had in 2005 (with a good defense), and he'll be sacked less too.

and before you project out how this year's stats will be better than last years - they won't. brunell fades down the stretch, and when we started winning last year, it was in part because we took the ball out of his hands and ran it more...


first 8 starts in 2005: 34.8 passes per game, 4-4 record
-------------------- 320+ yards twice, 220+ 5 times
next 8 starts: 22.4 passes per game, 6-2 record
---------------- under 200 yards EIGHT times (under 160 6 times)

when brunell throws 27 times or less per game: 11-2
otherwise: 5-14

and no shit it's somewhat self-serving, but that doesn't seem to bother you (that whole correlation != causation thing).
the running game also got a lot better at the end of the year

RobH4413
11-07-2006, 11:33 PM
when brunell throws 27 times or less per game: 11-2
otherwise: 5-14


Honestly I'm not sure how much information you can derive from that stat. It's kind of stating the obvious.

When teams are losing (and therefore more likely to lose the game) they pass more. When a team is winning (and therefore more likely to win the game) they run more.

If you averaged all the games played by all the teams in the past 10 years, you'd find a similar stat.

Not trying to be a naysayer, just thought I'd make that point. It really doesn't say anything about Brunell in particular, just that we pass more when we're down, and we usually lose games in which we were down.

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