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illdefined 11-06-2006, 11:10 AM I'm just happy he threw the ball downfield! That's always been my biggest complaint!
same here. and unfortunately, that means risking INTs, or near INTs. Brunell is so INT averse, he hasn't thrown over the middle regularly in a game all year. with our defense no longer shutting heads down, i'm glad he finally took those risks. it's what it took to win a game.
SmootSmack 11-06-2006, 11:11 AM I'll give you that, I haven't read the entire thread so I wasn't aware of meaningless bashing. It bothers me most when people come along and just write something like "Brunell sucked today."
If it doesn't have substance, then it's a meaningless post, and that's just dumb.
But might I say that RedskinRat was the first person to post negatively in this thread. He said he disagreed, and that Brunell threw too many passes that were close to being picked off. And then people jumped on him.
That to me isn't meaningless posting. It was a short post, but he's absolutely right, Brunell gave the game away on a couple of those throws, but the Cowboys just didn't catch the ball. I'm always harping on turnovers, and Brunell was dangerously close on a couple of throws.
Anyway, I'm on cloud nine that we won that game yesterday. Brunell made some bad plays, but he also made some good ones. We got the win, that's what matters. Hopefully Brunell will step it up against the Eagles next week, and we'll really get on a roll.
Hey, we were 0-5 under Marty once and came back to 5-5. It can be done!
I think Matty was more specifically referring to posts in other threads, particularly the game thread. All I know is that there are many many people here, yourself not included Schneed, who see one side only. They'll see the dropped INT by Roy Williams but they'll look the other way when it's a dropped completion by Cooley or Portis or whoever in other games.
same here. and unfortunately, that means risking INTs, or near INTs. Brunell is so INT averse, he hasn't thrown over the middle regularly in a game all year. with our defense no longer shutting heads down, it's what it took to win a game.
Exactly.
We wanted him to take chances and go down the field more, well guess what? When you do that your chances of throwing a pick is going to increase. That's why it's called taking a chance.
Brunell took some chances yesterday, more than we've seen him take in recent memory, and now people want to blast him for doing exactly what we've wanted. That's being a hypocrite. And that's showing your true colors if you are a Brunell hater.
Southpaw 11-06-2006, 11:19 AM Brunell took some chances yesterday, more than we've seen him take in recent memory, and now people want to blast him for doing exactly what we've wanted. That's being a hypocrite. And that's showing your true colors if you are a Brunell hater.
I'm actually quite happy with the chances Brunell took yesterday. My only beef with it is if he could do it yesterday, he could have down it all season, instead of waiting until the season is all but over to turn it on...
If you want to read a bunch of threads saying "YEEEEAHHHH!!!! ThE ReDsKiNs WoNNN!!!, go to Extreme.
Here people post honest opinions.
The posts where people say things like "yay we won" are just as asinine as the posts where people say things like "Brunell sucks."
It's not all about cheerleading. There are cheerleading threads on this site. But this one is about critiquing Brunell's performance.
Maybe you can point out the part of my post that suggests YYEEEEEahhhhh (what you said)????? I would agree with you that bunell sucks is equally as useless. The thrust of the statement is, there is way to much useless, baseless anti-skin misery types around this site MUCH of the time. If that's who you are, it's your right!
JWsleep 11-06-2006, 11:26 AM My old soccer coach had a saying: "Lose, analyze; win, criticize." (CRT knowswhat I'm talking about!) Criticizing after a win is a way to get better, instead of just letting the fact that we won wash away a mulitude of sins. If Troy Vincent doesn't get the block, if Sean doesn't put on his supernman cape, if Nick doesn't wait for the perfect gust of wind, would that make MBs play aby better or worse? It wouldn't. We need to think about this rationally, as Matty said.
My feeling is that MB made some big throws on some key 3rd downs, and for that he deserves our praise. But he is still very late on his reads--that's why you get the "almost Ints." The plays come open, he sees them late, and he doesn't have the arm to force it in. Hence, the D can recover. It happened a bunch of times, and even on the good long throws, if he sees them quick, they are seriously wide open. Look at the tape. Also, he didn't rush for a first down on two occasions when it sure looked like he could have. He threw one on a thrid and 2-3, and he ran out of bounds on another. He is worried about being hit. (I would worry too, no doubt!!!), and it is affecting his play.
I am convinced, like John Madden, that MB is not the right QB for our system. He didn't lose us the game, and he did make some clutch plays. But he (and the offense) dissapeared for mcuh of the second half, as they have all year. Compare his play to Tony Romo (NOT Peyton. Come on!). Honestly, who was the better QB? Brunnell was part of the win, so he gets props (I suppose Arch does too, by that logic--he tackled Whitten before he got a TD, at least). But he was just average, IMHO, and ARE threw the biggest pass of the day for the skins. See what happens when you pressure a D deep? Good things.
MB won a repreieve for now (by "fighting his guts out," no doubt). But that's it. And he won the repreieve becuase Troy Vincent blocked his first kick, and the best TO returner in the league picked up the ball, not becuase of his great QB play.
This kind of comment is thrown around far too much. How is not liking Brunell the same thing as wanting the Redskins to lose to the Cowboys? That's just ridiculous. I can promise you that no true Redskin fan was unhappy with the win yesterday.
True Redskins fan would be the operative phrase. To continually bash the coaching staff, players, ownership, front office..................Camera guy, key grip, best boy???????????? miss anybody???? Is this what you endorse?
SmootSmack 11-06-2006, 11:28 AM I'm actually quite happy with the chances Brunell took yesterday. My only beef with it is if he could do it yesterday, he could have down it all season, instead of waiting until the season is all but over to turn it on...
One thing we don't really know the answer to though is whose decision was that? Has it been Brunell? Did Gibbs and Saunders sit down during the bye week and say here's what we need to do? Did Moss' absence force a change in the game plan?
The Zimmermans 11-06-2006, 11:37 AM He played well enough this week. We didnt' give him a chance to make the big play on 3rd and two on the dallas 30, instead we handed off the ball which was fine. However, if we decided to throw or qb sneak on that big 3rd down, we would be able to analyze his performance in more detail. If he plays well next week, than he has proven his stay at QB, if not, then his inconsistancy has become a major issue. For now, start brunell, we are still alive.
My old soccer coach had a saying: "Lose, analyze; win, criticize."
I like that but with some people it's win, lose, or tie... criticize.
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