Trading Down the 1st Rounder next year

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DirtBagZ
11-03-2006, 12:09 PM
Trading down is definitely the way to go; however, that is not the flashy move that will draw the press. It kills me how all the various analyst knock our team as the Superbowl Champions of the offseason, free-agency period. It also gets to me when knowledgeable fans of other teams use this knock on us, and there is no effective counter response, for it is true.

The irony is that the Redskins of the first Gibbs era, are the type of team like Patriots, Eagles, and Bears are now, solidly built through the draft, and blue-collar. The Snyderskins are all flash and no substance, the team is going to have chemistry and other problems until they finally get out of the offseason free-agent spending spree madness.

I am sure someone will point out that Jack Kent Cooke spent money, and yes he did, but he spent money to retain players, which is why those old Redskins teams were so good, they had a core of players who played there whole career in burgundy and gold. In my own opinion this is one of the BIG problems with the Skins, and it is not going to be fixed any time soon.

The Zimmermans
11-03-2006, 12:35 PM
well said, but "snyder isnt the problem" according to many fans, however, snyder hasnt won.....coincidence?????

SouperMeister
11-03-2006, 01:02 PM
well said, but "snyder isnt the problem" according to many fans, however, snyder hasnt won.....coincidence?????
We need to bring in a GM to provide adult supervision over Gibbs/Snyder regarding personnel and cap management, one who is steadfast about rebuilding via the draft. Until we do that, we will continue to be "The Champions of March" and hit or miss when the games count.

Champ Bailey wanted out after going thru changes every offseason, new coaches, new players, same underachieving results. Snyder will NEVER learn that building a stable core and keeping the same coaches on for more than 1 or 2 years is the real key to success. He'd rather gas up Redskin One every March and go on a jet-set spending spree. That approach is good for his bottom line - he can market somebody new every year, and create hype that the latest additions will put the team over the top.

The Zimmermans
11-03-2006, 01:12 PM
EXACTLY, winning the right way would cost him too much invested time, time is money. So he puts out an appealing product every year, figuring it will increase merchandise spending and attendance.

SkinsTerps424
11-03-2006, 01:24 PM
Trading down out of a really high first rounder to get multiple picks would require some degree of ingenuity from the front office. I wouldn't trust this crowd to do such a thing.

Casserly could do it. Wonder if Danny could throw him a few million, make him forget about the past?


Hahaha, having the most boring day at work, your sarcasm really brightened up my afternoon. Couldnt agree with you more!

SkinsTerps424
11-03-2006, 01:36 PM
Speed is overrated. Position is what matters. Our guys in the secondary aren't suffering from a lack of speed, they're simply out of position too much.

This is so true. If I remember correctly against the Giants before halftime Tiki reeled off a 15 yard run and the only playmaker on our defense, Mr. Taylor, ripped the ball from Tiki's arms. 15 yards down field and no redskins defenders were around to jump on the ball. Unreal, its the first thing they teach you in pee wee, get to the ball. We don't hussle to the ball at all. If we would swarm and be in the right places we would be more successful defensively.

Kounter Trey
11-03-2006, 01:46 PM
Are people really nostalgic for Charley Casserly? The architect of the famous Houstan Texans juggernaut? I think people might be mistaking the ass-end of Bobby Beathard's reign as part of CC's legacy. I don't remember CC having much luck with draft picks at all.

TheMalcolmConnection
11-03-2006, 01:47 PM
Yeah, I agree there. I think a lot of people are lumping the two together.

That Guy
11-03-2006, 01:53 PM
Speed is overrated. Position is what matters. Our guys in the secondary aren't suffering from a lack of speed, they're simply out of position too much.


they're a slow secondary beyond whatever other troubles they may be having. speed can also let you correct some mistakes.

and trading down would or wouldn't make sense depending on our draft position and the players available. right now it's too early to tell.

Crat92
11-03-2006, 01:58 PM
Are people really nostalgic for Charley Casserly? The architect of the famous Houstan Texans juggernaut? I think people might be mistaking the ass-end of Bobby Beathard's reign as part of CC's legacy. I don't remember CC having much luck with draft picks at all.
Ah yes, that Houston Juggernaut! Bring Back CC! HA HA HA!

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