Trading Down the 1st Rounder next year

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The Zimmermans
11-02-2006, 02:53 PM
Yeah, they seem to always be recovering from their mistakes. Are they lacking the anticipation??? Do you think that troy vincent should get the nod over archuleta this sunday, I feel like he might compliment taylor more than Arch.

TheMalcolmConnection
11-02-2006, 02:54 PM
See, forget speed. I'm all about drafting TALENT.

MTK
11-02-2006, 03:09 PM
Yeah, they seem to always be recovering from their mistakes. Are they lacking the anticipation??? Do you think that troy vincent should get the nod over archuleta this sunday, I feel like he might compliment taylor more than Arch.

I wouldn't be surprised to see quite a bit of Vincent down the stretch, at least in passing situations.

GTripp0012
11-02-2006, 06:18 PM
Speed is overrated. Position is what matters. Our guys in the secondary aren't suffering from a lack of speed, they're simply out of position too much.I think we can win with the corners we have. They do lack speed, but they are bigger and more physical than the NFL average and will come up and pop you in the run game.

We need to get back to the blitzing style that won us games. Blitz, man. If they beat it, blitz again.

skinsfan69
11-02-2006, 07:50 PM
Caesserly is a hack. What has he ever done? He won a SB with a team he didn't build. Then set forth to ruin a franchise throughout the mid 90s. He was as responsible as anyone for the teams struggles until Gibbs finally came back.

Trading down would be a great idea becasue of so many needs. But the current braintrust isn't smart enough to do that. Bringing Charlie back would be a good idea. He knows more about today's NFL/ College than anyone they currently have. And you can put Norv in the blame game for the 90's. Norv wanted Shuler/Westbrook. He thought they were going to be Aikman and Irvin. But I would try and get someone from Balt. Chicago or New England front office. Someone with disipline and fiscal responsiblity that knows how to draft. I believe Bobby DePaul works in Chicago's front office and he is mostly responsible for building the current Bears team. He once worked for the Skins many year ago.

SmootSmack
11-02-2006, 08:22 PM
Actually between Casserly and Norv. One wanted Dilfer/Westbrook the other wanted Shuler/Galloway so they basically compromised. But that's in the past

Pocket$ $traight
11-02-2006, 09:42 PM
If they had salary cap problems (which they don't) wouldn't it make sense to sign 1 first rounder instead of a 1st and 2nd?

Anyway, I think they need to focus on the O-line and defensive lines period.

Look at the g-men last year. They had a bunch of clowns playing LB (after Pierce was hurt) but they still won the division (didn't help against the Panthers...). Look at the Panthers. Their linebackers are comical and the secondary is mediocre at best but the line keeps them competitive.

Since we are stuck with Carter for a few years, is there any way we could use him as a linebacker? He obviously cannot play the line in our scheme. Why compound a mistake by continuing to play him there.

GhettoDogAllStars
11-03-2006, 10:21 AM
If they had salary cap problems (which they don't) wouldn't it make sense to sign 1 first rounder instead of a 1st and 2nd?

Anyway, I think they need to focus on the O-line and defensive lines period.

Look at the g-men last year. They had a bunch of clowns playing LB (after Pierce was hurt) but they still won the division (didn't help against the Panthers...). Look at the Panthers. Their linebackers are comical and the secondary is mediocre at best but the line keeps them competitive.

Since we are stuck with Carter for a few years, is there any way we could use him as a linebacker? He obviously cannot play the line in our scheme. Why compound a mistake by continuing to play him there.

I understand what you're saying about the salaries of a 1st and 2nd rounders. However, I think it's a little unrealistic to think we could trade down for a lower first AND a second round pick (unless we have a top 3-5 pick). I think a lower first and a third is more likely. In that case, the salaries of a low first and a third will be comparable to the salary of a high first.

I agree that lines should be the main focus. IMO, O-line, D-line, and RB are the most important pieces of a great team (a smart QB is necessary, a good QB is a luxury). I also think they should try to play carter at LB ... he isn't doing squat at DE, but we should probably wait a few more games before passing judgement (after all, it is his first year here).

krathod
11-03-2006, 11:11 AM
Trading down would be a great idea becasue of so many needs. But the current braintrust isn't smart enough to do that. Bringing Charlie back would be a good idea. He knows more about today's NFL/ College than anyone they currently have. And you can put Norv in the blame game for the 90's. Norv wanted Shuler/Westbrook. He thought they were going to be Aikman and Irvin. But I would try and get someone from Balt. Chicago or New England front office. Someone with disipline and fiscal responsiblity that knows how to draft. I believe Bobby DePaul works in Chicago's front office and he is mostly responsible for building the current Bears team. He once worked for the Skins many year ago.

I agree with your assessment of Bobby DePaul, what about Ron Wolf? THe Green Bay Packers once GM- He brought in Holgren, Favre, etc...

Big C
11-03-2006, 12:39 PM
we need to see where our pick will be next year before we can discuss this

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