Theismann made a great point during MNF.

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The Zimmermans
10-31-2006, 11:33 AM
Run first works if you are winning...............or if you have a good defense, we don't fall into either of those categories, so we are screwed. I like how saunders tried to come out throwing last week, it proved effective until brunell started screwing it up in the second half. Running the ball is only effective in sustaining drives in the second half, when defenses are tired, in the first half, it's usually just a compliment to the pass. These are all points intended for the MODERN nfl, not the 80s and 90s NFL.

dmek25
10-31-2006, 11:36 AM
running the football = winning the time of possesion, which in turn = keeping the defense off the field. sounds like a winning formula to me

The Zimmermans
10-31-2006, 11:44 AM
that's good theoretically, but running the ball does not get you first downs consistently. We need a way to spread out the defense, then the running game would dominate.

61cad
10-31-2006, 11:58 AM
everyone is forgetting last season and how we gave it to clinton, and said run, clinton, run. and we ran right into the playoffs. lets get on #26s back again and make a playoff push

I didn't forget. But the defense was kicking ass and not stinking out the place!

illdefined
10-31-2006, 12:11 PM
For us, it's not so much playing to our opponent's weaknesses as it is to playing to our own strengths. If the passing game is struggling, we run it more. If the running game struggles we throw. We definately have the talent to do both. The Pats' offensive style is similar to ours in many ways. Brady is better than Brunell, but we will YAC you to death. In terms of efficiency, we have virtually the same production numbers this season. Because of this, I wouldn't put any blame on Gibbs' because we pretty much emulate the Pats offense anyway. Now if we could only emulate the defense.

Brady uses the entire field, and his whole complement of receivers, backs and TEs. he had thrown to seven different guys in the first half. that alone makes our offense vastly different. whether in execution or philosophy.

skinsfan69
10-31-2006, 12:34 PM
My point is that when you get against GOOD NFL DEFENSES you can't come in and run it down everyone's throat. It just does not work! It sure didn't work against Tampa in the playoffs did it? Or against Seattle! And the hell with motion. Motion is a bunch of bullshit. Do the Colts run motion???? No. Never. They never run any motion. It's always the same thing. Harrison on the right and Wayne on the left. Dungy said that they have been running the same plays for 7 FRICKIN YEARS! How about execution!!!! How about production???? I almost don't even want to turn on the TV Sunday after watching the Pats and the Colts over the weekend. Brunell is so old and tired. Plus Romo carved up Carolina in Carolina! What in the hell is Gibbs waiting for?

TheMalcolmConnection
10-31-2006, 12:38 PM
You're kind of contradicting yourself there. If it's all about execution, then why CAN'T you run it down someone's throat?

mredskins
10-31-2006, 12:46 PM
running the football = winning the time of possesion, which in turn = keeping the defense off the field. sounds like a winning formula to me

DMEK you are right. Here is a clue we don't have fucking Tom Brady! So we can not run our offense like the Pats.

backrow
10-31-2006, 01:23 PM
The skins offense is painful to watch on sunday's. Nothing makes me more mad than to see mark brunell throw a 5 yard dink on 3 and 15. And how about taking a shot down field on a first down or second and short. I mean what was the point of bringing in antwaan randle el or brandon lloyd if we're not going to use them to their potential? I'm not expecting big things from the redskins this year and nobody else should either. But I do trust in the almighty joe gibbs to get it together between now and the start of the 2007 season.

Welcome 89!

You are right! What was the point if we are not using them to their potential?

Only one player can trigger that potential in his fellow players.

61cad
10-31-2006, 02:47 PM
running the football = winning the time of possesion, which in turn = keeping the defense off the field. sounds like a winning formula to me


The Skins defense can not keep itself off the field. The only way this team is going to win is to out score the opponent.

Loose the ball control , Joe Gibbs offense and open this baby up or this team goes 2 and 14.

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