What could have been...

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Paintrain
10-30-2006, 08:51 AM
From the Hampton Roads article on the failings of the front office here's a snapshot of the players we COULD have had if we didn't trade all the picks recently, what do you think the differences in our team's fortune may have been?

From 2004: S Bob Sanders (second round to Colts); S Madieu Williams (second round to Bengals); tackle Max Starks (third round to Steelers); QB Matt Schaub (third round to Falcons); CBs Nathan Vasher and Jason David (fourth round to Bears and Colts); WR Jerricho Cotchery (fourth round to Jets);

From 2005: LB Lofa Tatupu (second round to Seahawks); CB Dominique Foxworth (third round to Denver); DE Chris Canty (third round to Cowboys)

From 2006: C Nick Mangold (first round to Jets); DT Barry Cofield (fourth round to Giants).

Daseal
10-30-2006, 09:43 AM
Sometimes it's more about going to the right place and system rather than the team. Hindsight is 20/20.

GhettoDogAllStars
10-30-2006, 10:00 AM
Yeah. We'd be stacked on D if we had Sanders, Vasher, and Tatupu to go along with Taylor, Marshall, and Griffin.

Oh well ... live and learn.

Monkeydad
10-30-2006, 01:13 PM
I think it's kind of stupid to look at who WAS picked with our traded draft picks and assume we would've taken the same players.

Hey...we traded away that 2004 second-round pick to GET CLINTON PORTIS. Are you saying you'd rather have Champ Bailey (who didn't want to be a Redskin) and Tatum Bell (who is injury-prone, inconsistant and hasn't proven he can run in any system other than Denver's) over the face of our franchise?

Where's the Tatum Bell pick on that article you posted? Did they forget it?

Also, we got Sean Taylor in Round 1 and Cooley in the 3rd-round in 2004. It was a good draft for those picks alone! We didn't need the 2nd-round pick that helped us land Portis.

Don't forget we TRADED to get Jason Campbell (the 25th overall pick) on draft day from Denver...basically drafting him. We also took Carlos Rogers that draft, who can be a very good CB someday and we can see how much we miss his presence right now. We use the picks we keep very well.


This draft pick trading for us is nothing new...and has always had good results. The media loves to find reasons to criticize us and this is just another way to do it.
Flashback: Trades Shook Up 1971 Draft (http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=6032)

The Zimmermans
10-30-2006, 03:49 PM
the picks we make are usually pretty solid (besides Schuler), we just need to make more of them

hooskins
10-30-2006, 05:13 PM
I feel your pain, I mean the same can be said about players that we have traded(esp about the players the Washington Wizards have traded in the past!!). But you can't look back to long. Learn from the mistakes and move on, kinda like a relationship....*runs and hides waiting to be shunned by warpath community*

jsarno
10-31-2006, 12:09 AM
Hey...we traded away that 2004 second-round pick to GET CLINTON PORTIS. Are you saying you'd rather have Champ Bailey (who didn't want to be a Redskin) and Tatum Bell (who is injury-prone, inconsistant and hasn't proven he can run in any system other than Denver's) over the face of our franchise?

How would he have proven he could run in any other system if all he has played in is the Denver system?
Also, you may not have realized, but Bell was #1 in rushing yards in the AFC before this week started, after this week, he's 3rd.

Champ just wanted consistancy in coaching staff (which we have), and too much money. Yes, I'd still like to have Champ around. We could use him right now...but for that money he's not worth it and Denver will figure it out.

That being said, I there needs to be caps on player salaries. Someone like Champ can't possibly stay with the team that drafted him. Salary cap implications keep that from occuring. Or maybe have a draft benefit to the cap. Like we could pay him 10 mil (for instance) and it only count 5 mil to to the cap as a salary cap benefit for drafting him.

Ps- I do like that Jones-Drew kid (jac) from UCLA. He kind of reminds me of Barry Sanders. When was he drafted?

GTripp0012
10-31-2006, 12:12 AM
Ps- I do like that Jones-Drew kid (jac) from UCLA. He kind of reminds me of Barry Sanders. When was he drafted?2nd round. 59th pick or something.

Olin_Kreutz
10-31-2006, 01:32 AM
Are these players the skins would have A) drafted and B) developed the players in the same way other systems have? I doubt it for most of these players. Also, whenever trading picks you are typically making a push for winning at the moment. Since that wasn't successful outside of 1 playoff win, I'd say you can pretty easily second guess any previous trading of draft picks, except that which included the acquisition of Portis which allowed for a franchise cornerstone.

Big C
10-31-2006, 01:54 AM
i kinda think this topic is pointless, it could be argued that we could have had almost any player in the league, so whats the point? man if we had taken tom brady in the 6th round before the pats...just could be for almost any player in the league

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