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irish 10-30-2006, 02:53 PM Buster, is there anyone you wouldn't let in?
Davis just didn't play well for long enough for the Hall. I know he had four great years, but he had three marginal years, too, even accounting for the injuries.
I agree that TD didnt play well for long enough but he did play as good as long as Gayle Sayers did and GS is in.
As far as that list goes, Matthews is the only acceptable candidate.
onlydarksets 10-30-2006, 02:58 PM Thank you! I knew there was somebody who got in after only playing for a few years, but I couldn't remember who.
Monkeydad 10-30-2006, 03:17 PM Yeah, when a guy runs for over 2,000 yards, he's one of the all-time greats, talent-wise. You can't fluke your way to 2,000 yards and 20+ TDs. It has only happened 5 times in NFL history...by some of the all-time greats...O.J., Dickerson, Barry Sanders. Then Jamal Lewis and T. Davis.
He was clearly a great RB. So was Sayers and really, Barry Sanders didn't have a long career; he could've played a LOT longer.
Yes, there's plenty I don't let in, Mr. Smarty Pants...most of that list that was in the link.
The ones I listed, I believe really deserve it.
Monkeydad 10-30-2006, 03:20 PM I agree that TD didnt play well for long enough but he did play as good as long as Gayle Sayers did and GS is in.
As far as that list goes, Matthews is the only acceptable candidate.
Sayers was a GREAT, GREAT RB...but if you compare stats, Davis kicks Sayers' butt.
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Not taking away from Sayers...just showing Davis was a great RB in his short career.
The Zimmermans 10-30-2006, 03:27 PM Randal Cunningham has gotta be the funniest. I think mark brunell has had a better career hahaha.
And Ricky Waters..........WOW is all I have to say
jbcjr14 10-30-2006, 03:28 PM I heard somewhere that Tagliabue (sp?) was going to be in??? If so, this is very much deserved as he really transformed the NFL into the best sporting league in the world.
Monkeydad 10-30-2006, 03:29 PM Randal Cunningham has gotta be the funniest. I think mark brunell has had a better career hahaha.
And Ricky Waters..........WOW is all I have to say
Have you looked at Watters' stats? I posted them above. He gained over 1,500 total yards in 7 straight seasons and shares the NFL postseason records for most TDs in a playoff game with 5 against the Giants. He scored 3 TDs against the Chargers in the SB too.
I actually remember him in high school, but that's not why I think he should be in the HOF...I look at his numbers.
Cunningham was a good QB and very fun to watch, but not HOF-caliber in my opinion.
I'll never forget his 90-yard punt though!
The Zimmermans 10-30-2006, 03:30 PM TD is no joke, Jim brown only had like 7 good seasons, and he could be considered the best ever. TD has two superbowls, and had 2000 in a season, the guy was rediculous. At his prime, he was HOF material, and head and shoulders above the next best back in the league at the time. Elway didnt throw the ball much during those superbowl wins, it was ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL TD
onlydarksets 10-30-2006, 03:34 PM Yeah, when a guy runs for over 2,000 yards, he's one of the all-time greats, talent-wise. You can't fluke your way to 2,000 yards and 20+ TDs. It has only happened 5 times in NFL history...by some of the all-time greats...O.J., Dickerson, Barry Sanders. Then Jamal Lewis and T. Davis.
He was clearly a great RB. So was Sayers and really, Barry Sanders didn't have a long career; he could've played a LOT longer.
Yes, there's plenty I don't let in, Mr. Smarty Pants...most of that list that was in the link.
The ones I listed, I believe really deserve it.
;)
Seriously though - you would put Jamal Lewis in the Hall for one incredble year and two pretty good years?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/LewiJa00.htm
Sanders had a LOT of great years, and no bad years (IIRC). I wouldn't compare him to Lewis and Davis.
The Zimmermans 10-30-2006, 03:38 PM Jamal lewis is a funny case, he got hurt and has never been the same. When he was good, he was HOF good, but that's not enough. TD played many years at a high level.
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