Joe And Vinny Must Go.

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celts32
10-24-2006, 03:09 PM
You know at this point, it's not about what JG would accept. It's about what's best for the Washington Redskins! We need a real GM! HAIL from MCUSA!

Gibbs is not the GM...he's coach and team president. Vinny & the other scouts have much more to do with the overall roster than Gibbs does. I am sure Gibbs hand picked MB and JC but he is not acting as GM here. They do need to fire Vinny and get a GM but that has nothing to do with Gibbs job...

budw38
10-24-2006, 06:31 PM
Vinny really doesn't have any power anymore, he hasn't since Gibbs came back. He's a scout and helps in player evaluation. Getting rid of him won't accomplish much at all.

As for the neverending GM thing, if Gibbs wanted a GM I'm sure Snyder would gladly sign a check for anyone that he wanted. But Gibbs has repeatedly said that he's happy with the personnel decision process as it currently is.
You are correct about the gm / and evaluating . But I do believe if this team is going to win year in & year out , that Synder is going to have to tell Gibbs that he is hiring a Gm and the Gm will make ALL personel decisions . Gibbs is to willing to throw away too many draft picks for average players all to often . I hope Dan can get the Steelers or Patriots ,,, even Baltimores GM and build a strong team . For now ,,, lets just kick the cowboys ass !

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR
10-24-2006, 09:48 PM
Gibbs is the CEO and Vinny is a joke. The three stooges are killing this team{GIBBS<VINNY>LITTLE DANNY} They all should be fired.

skinsguy
10-24-2006, 09:52 PM
Funny thing....if we all of a sudden go on a 5 game winning streak....you guys calling for Gibbs' head will be lickin' his feet. So many turncoats...so little time.

Pocket$ $traight
10-24-2006, 10:03 PM
Funny thing....if we all of a sudden go on a 5 game winning streak....you guys calling for Gibbs' head will be lickin' his feet. So many turncoats...so little time.

If they go on a 5 game win streak it won't be with the 8 car and if 17 was that good, anyone who kept him on the bench should retire.

If they go on a 5 game win streak I will lick Greg Williams' feet because the only way they could do that is if the D does a 180.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR
10-24-2006, 10:11 PM
SKINSGUY we all would love the skins to do it. But the rest of us are living in the real world. With this qb we have now and no depth because of lack of draft picks, its not going to happen unfortually. I wish they would run the table and make all of us eat our word but its not going to happen. Were not turncoats were just tired tired of seeing this team being run into the ground the front office {GIBBS,VINNY,LITTLE DANNY}. Gibbs needs a football noy vinny to give him advice. God it would be great to have a GM running this team instead of the Three Stooges we have now. Hail to the Skins

61cad
10-25-2006, 12:46 PM
Is this Gibbs last year as Head Coach and will he be moved to GM?

Then the start of Gregg Williams as Head Coach?

That's the way I see it!

REDSKINS NATION!!!!!!!!!!

dmek25
10-25-2006, 12:56 PM
i don't see coach Gibbs leaving unless the skins pull off this monumental turnaround this season. no way he leaves a mess like this for someone else to clean up

BleedBurgundy
10-25-2006, 01:01 PM
I say keep Joe as the coach but remove him from all personnel decisions.

Does anyone still honestly believe that personnel at the skill positions (other than qb) is the problem? We have a freaking all star team. They just need to be coached and have plays called in a manner that takes advantage of their talent. How does Saunders go from having a powerful offense in KC with trent green (he puts up #'s in the system, but no way he's a "premier qb.") and a bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier wideouts, to nothing but 5 yard out patterns, screen plays and running the ball 75% of the time with a) Santana Moss- a top 10 receiver in the league b) Antwaan Randel El- a great all around weapon c) Brandon Lloyd- not a #1 but definitely an above average #2 d)CLINTON FUCKING PORTIS e) Chris Cooley- a clutch te/hb who's emerging as a leader on the team...? I just don't get it. It all looks so good on paper. These are legit players who have played at a high level in the NFL. This offense is like taking filet mignon and making a burger out of it. The meal just doesn't live up to the ingredients. And the defense would be a hell of a lot better if we could sustain drives to keep them off of the field.

MTK
10-25-2006, 03:07 PM
Does anyone still honestly believe that personnel at the skill positions (other than qb) is the problem? We have a freaking all star team. They just need to be coached and have plays called in a manner that takes advantage of their talent. How does Saunders go from having a powerful offense in KC with trent green (he puts up #'s in the system, but no way he's a "premier qb.") and a bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier wideouts, to nothing but 5 yard out patterns, screen plays and running the ball 75% of the time with a) Santana Moss- a top 10 receiver in the league b) Antwaan Randel El- a great all around weapon c) Brandon Lloyd- not a #1 but definitely an above average #2 d)CLINTON FUCKING PORTIS e) Chris Cooley- a clutch te/hb who's emerging as a leader on the team...? I just don't get it. It all looks so good on paper. These are legit players who have played at a high level in the NFL. This offense is like taking filet mignon and making a burger out of it. The meal just doesn't live up to the ingredients. And the defense would be a hell of a lot better if we could sustain drives to keep them off of the field.

Agreed.

I don't see talent as a problem right now.

The pieces of the puzzle are there, it's just not coming together for a variety of reasons.

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