Dear Mr. Snyder, PLEASE SELL THE TEAM!!!!

and you're proof of that is where? how can you know vinny and danny aren't in on player choices (we know gibbs meets with them to talk about players by their own admissions).

How can you know that Dan is pulling the strings?

The preponderance of the evidence suggests that Gibbs and Williams are making the decisions on player personnel. Saying Snyder is making these decisions seems to lean on rumor and conjecture more than anything.

Snyder has said repeatedly that Gibbs has the final call over players.

I'd love to see some evidence to the contrary.

great, show me the quotes and citations proving vinny and danny have no say please. gibbs has said (back when he was hired) that he, danny, and vinny talked about players.


yes, Vinny gives a list of players that are available via free agency or restricted FA. Joe talks to them about these players. Joe is the president, he makes the calls on players..bottom line. who stays, who goes. Joe is god to us and especially Dan. Like I said, what Joe wants, Joe gets. Dan does not say no especially coming from his boy hood idol.
the only quote you need is "join me in introducing our new head football coach and president of football operations, Joe Gibbs!!"

First we didn't make the radical changes on defense this offseason that I keep hearing. We replaced Clark with Archuleta and supposedly added the pass rusher we'd been missing with Carter. That's it. The biggest issue to the defense this year has been injuries. Second, are you saying that Snyder hired Saunders behind Gibbs' back? Ok, whatever keeps you happy I guess. Third, there is no comparing Angelos and Snyder. Angelos has his sons and son in laws running the team. Mike Flanagan is essentially a figure head there.

Snyder has said repeatedly that Gibbs has the final call over players.

I'd love to see some evidence to the contrary.

Let's ask Vinny himself

"The coach has the final say. We'll go through the whole process. We'll put everybody in an order. Then it will come down to the coach saying this is what I need or this is what I don't need.

Dan takes no say so in the player moves. He gives it all to Coach Gibbs. We all work together to come up with an answer and then the coach makes the final call. Like he says, somebody has to make the final call. He does.

He takes all the information and the thing that he does that's great is we go over it and over it and he asks everybody's opinion and everybody's opinion counts, from the trainers, to the strength coaches, to the scouts, to everybody.

He wants every opinion, every bit of information, then we'll make a good decision and he'll make the final call."

EXTREMESKINS.com - Final transcript of the Vinny Cerrato Chat. (http://extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95692)

How can you know that Dan is pulling the strings?

The preponderance of the evidence suggests that Gibbs and Williams are making the decisions on player personnel. Saying Snyder is making these decisions seems to lean on rumor and conjecture more than anything.

where did i say danny was pulling the strings? where did i say i knew for sure? please show me.

according to whats been posted, vinny does have a say and gibbs chooses the players. not gibbs and williams.

if it's gibbs, if it's vinny, they've got to be replaced with a real gm for personnel decisions. cause whoever is making the choices now sucks.

"join me in introducing our new head football coach and president of football operations, Joe Gibbs!!"

maybe that's all you need while you accept a loser. I rather see some results, and on the GM front, it's a disaster. "desmond howard has no weaknesses."

it's not a new thing.

maybe that's all you need while you accept a loser. I rather see some results, and on the GM front, it's a disaster. "desmond howard has no weaknesses."

it's not a new thing.



I have said from day 1 we need a GM. Gibbs is a proven coach, but he did not build those teams in the 80s and 90s. I am a firm believer in building teams through the draft and adding a player or two to put yourself over the top. but I will always be a die hard Redskins fan. we all just have to live with the fact we build our teams a certain way. The coaches here have all had final say over player roster (except Turner) even spurrier got what he wanted.
Lets put the blame where it belongs, the locker room. Unmotivated players, stupid mistakes, bad play calling or game plans(whichever) Danny signs the checks,

Amen. Things haven't been right since he bought the team. It's become all about making money instead of winning Super Bowl rings.


What was so wrong with last years team?

I know the conspiracy theorists want to believe that Snyder is somehow meddling with personnel, but ever since Gibbs came back all we've heard is how he's taken a backseat and Gibbs and the rest of the staff collectively make the personnel decisions, and Snyder is the main negotiator.

Blaming Snyder is really a tired excuse that doesn't hold much merit anymore.

Matty, we are usually on the same page when it comes to Redskins related thoughts, but I got to disagree with you here. Snyder sets the overall tone for the organization and since he has bought the team that tone has been a lack of patience, focus and accountability. It trickles down from the very top and other than the year that Schottenheimer was here it's always been 'his' show.

As much as I revere Gibbs, he is still caught up in the Snyder atmosphere that surrounds the team. This offseason, as much as I hate to agree with the mediots, was classic Snyder. They went out and got parts they didn't need (Archuleta) or don't fit (Carter) and screwed up what was working on being a good thing. ARE is a solid contributor and I think Lloyd, if thrown the ball, will be as well but the other players have unquestionably HURT the team.

Brunell is all on Gibbs because you know if that were up to Snyder, Campbell would have been starting a long time ago, but our problems are bigger than the QB position. We have no identity, no depth, seemingly no plan on how we are going to approach a game and leave with a win. Relying on 'talent' gets you to 5-11 in the NFL. How that can not be traced back to Snyder, setting the tone, and Cerrato, who runs the scouting department, is lost on me.