It's not Brunell's fault!

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Pocket$ $traight
10-23-2006, 12:42 AM
I have an idea: tackle the guy with the f-ing ball. And enough with the stupid penalties. Brunell didn't contribute to either of those factors in losing the game. And somehow Greg Williams doesn't seem to get enough blame. We give up almost 25 points a game! JC, Brunell or whoever, we ain't winning too many games with that type of D.

And someone please put Arculetta and Samuels out of their misery. They're done.

I agree that Samuels is overrated but he is no worse than a top 5 tackle. Archuletta is garbage. Unfortunately, we are stuck with them for a while. I would like to see Archuletta benched, at least we will find out if the guy has any pride.

Citizens for 81
10-23-2006, 12:48 AM
The OL has had only 1 solid game this season. Samuels and Jansen are having horrible seasons. They both gave up sacks today, for the second week in a row. Most probowl tackels give up less than 5 a season. Its hard to trash Brunell when he can't even set his feet to throw because he's running for his life.

Mauicruzer
10-23-2006, 12:57 AM
I CANT DEAL WITH THIS CRAP ANYMORE. Everything bothers me about the skins right now. Because im so frustrated im going to go ahead and say it but I still blame it all on Norv Turner

CPDAMAN
10-23-2006, 01:03 AM
I think you are right. FA's that played great, sucked after they came here, we had stupid penalties and we never performed to our ability. It's the curse of Turner

Citizens for 81
10-23-2006, 01:07 AM
I think you are right. FA's that played great, sucked after they came here, we had stupid penalties and we never performed to our ability. It's the curse of Turner
Why is he a curse? Is it because he was from Dallas or is b/c he sucked so bad.

Daseal
10-23-2006, 01:32 AM
I remember at one point in the first half Brunell was 10 of 15 with ?? yards. Then they gave the sacks/hurries numbers. There were 10 hurries. That means, in spite of all the dump-offs, he only had 5 unpressured passes. So can you try to go downfield if your OLine is so weak that you get pressured doing just short dump-offs? My feeling is that Saunders doesn't call the downfield plays because he doesn't trust the OLine to hold up long enough. And remember all those holding penalties? There's a lot more of them when the line has to pass protect for more time.

Yeah, I remember when they showed that. Peytons hit was higher and hurried was the same. Really kept him from doing anything,

mike340
10-23-2006, 02:00 AM
Gee, I seem to remember Peyton's was lower. Since you bring this up, and I don't have the videotape, could someone please post the corresponding stat(s) for Peyton, i.e. attempts, completions, and hurries. Thanks.

Yeah, I remember when they showed that. Peytons hit was higher and hurried was the same. Really kept him from doing anything,

GTripp0012
10-23-2006, 02:00 AM
I'm not going to bother defending Brunell right now, because no one else around the league thinks this is his fault. The offense is generally very good, and the only thing thats inconsistent about this offense is O Line play. In the first half, it was generally very good, and so was the offense. But in the second half, it wasn't, and neither was the offense. Those guys up front need to play with some more consistency.

As for the D, they took huge strides in the first half this week. As for the 2nd half performance, I don't care who they are playing. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Terry Bradshaw, Johnny Unitas, Marino, Elway...you DO NOT give up 3 TDs on the first 3 drives of the half that easily. The D Line was a huge bright spot in the first half and when they came out for the 2nd, it was an entirely different unit. They made Addai look like Edge. There are no bright spots on this defense right now.

EternalEnigma21
10-23-2006, 02:07 AM
I'm not going to bother defending Brunell right now, because no one else around the league thinks this is his fault. The offense is generally very good, and the only thing thats inconsistent about this offense is O Line play. In the first half, it was generally very good, and so was the offense. But in the second half, it wasn't, and neither was the offense. Those guys up front need to play with some more consistency.

As for the D, they took huge strides in the first half this week. As for the 2nd half performance, I don't care who they are playing. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Terry Bradshaw, Johnny Unitas, Marino, Elway...you DO NOT give up 3 TDs on the first 3 drives of the half that easily. The D Line was a huge bright spot in the first half and when they came out for the 2nd, it was an entirely different unit. They made Addai look like Edge. There are no bright spots on this defense right now.


We were scared of manning. Gregg Williams was scared. you don't put 3 guys down to rush manning and think you can make a zone blanket he can't pick apart given all day.

The running... well everyone has been doing that to us...

We need to start playing in our opponent's backfield constantly like we did 2 years ago....

mike340
10-23-2006, 02:29 AM
Another thing that's happened this year is that Saunders's system doesn't allow for many audibles at the line of scrimmage. Brunell did that (I believe effectively) in prior years. As you saw, Peyton changed many plays at the line of scrimmage. As it is, there is now no way to adjust a play for the defensive set. This has got to make life harder for the offense.

The offense is averaging 20 points/game. 21/game two years ago would have gone 13-2-1. But our defense is allowing 26/game!
Who has allowed more total points than we have(171)? The Jets, Lions, and 49ers. That's it!
To contrast, at Denver's current rate, their defense would take 1 1/2 years to yield 171 points.

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