It's not Brunell's fault!

Brunell Cannot Throw The Ball More Than 10 Yards!!! Dallas Will Destroy Us!!

What 6th rated offense?
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saunders is just covering his @$$. he's already implied he can be vetoed, that brunell isn't any good, that campbell is stupid, that he can't run his offense, the whole portis taking himself out of games things (only AFTER the 3rd down wasn't converted, not before), said that the playbook wasn't being used (AFTER people complained in preseason), and complained that he couldn't see the players in preseason (AFTER they fell flat in week 1), and complained that the talent isn't there.

if you need an excuse, he's the guy to ask.

I completely agree!
Saunders has acted like an arrogant fool ever since the preseason. He refused to run the plays in preseason so he wouldn't show too much, but what could have been stupider than that considering how long it's taken for the system to develop. Ooops.
Then anything that goes wrong he just says that "the system works" and passes the blame to the players.
He's the Offensive coordinator- it's his job to make the system work with the players he has, not just pout like a little bitch that he doesn't have Trent Green and hall of fame offensive linemen.
I wasn't a fan of his KC offense anyway- they could never win when it mattered (NO playoff wins in 5 years), but his arrogance that it can't possibly be his fault is unacceptable - it's his job to adapt. These are the players he has. I mean if he's only a good offensive coordinator with great players, then he's not a good offensive coordinator.

Does anyone know if he actually called the plays in KC (I know he didn't in St. Louis), but did he call them in KC? Or did Vermeil?
Maybe he's just not a good playcaller? Especially, maybe he's not good at making halftime adjustments to his playcalling - something Gibbs always excelled at.

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the garbage time still inflates those stats.

I completely agree!
Saunders has acted like an arrogant fool ever since the preseason. He refused to run the plays in preseason so he wouldn't show too much, but what could have been stupider than that considering how long it's taken for the system to develop. Ooops.
Then anything that goes wrong he just says that "the system works" and passes the blame to the players.
He's the Offensive coordinator- it's his job to make the system work with the players he has, not just pout like a little bitch that he doesn't have Trent Green and hall of fame offensive linemen.
I wasn't a fan of his KC offense anyway- they could never win when it mattered (NO playoff wins in 5 years), but his arrogance that it can't possibly be his fault is unacceptable - it's his job to adapt. These are the players he has. I mean if he's only a good offensive coordinator with great players, then he's not a good offensive coordinator.

Does anyone know if he actually called the plays in KC (I know he didn't in St. Louis), but did he call them in KC? Or did Vermeil?
Maybe he's just not a good playcaller? Especially, maybe he's not good at making halftime adjustments to his playcalling - something Gibbs always excelled at.

i believe he called plays in KC. it's easier with HoF OL and good QBs though.

To put some perspective on things, our offense scored a TOTAL of 37 points against the Giants, Cowboys, Colts, and Vikings. That's about 9 points per game. ANYONE who thinks that an offense that scores 9 points per game is good is on some ridiculously good crack.

To put some perspective on things, our offense scored a TOTAL of 37 points against the Giants, Cowboys, Colts, and Vikings. That's about 9 points per game. ANYONE who thinks that an offense that scores 9 points per game is good is on some ridiculously good crack.It's pretty shitty. But that doesn't mean the offense isn't efficient. The inablity to score points is a seperate problem. Either the kickers aren't making kicks (they've been inconsistent), we aren't getting TDs in the red zone (i don't have the stats on this), we consistently have terrible field position (again, don't know), or you have a ridiculously low TOP because the defense can never get off the field on third down (bingo!).

Good point re: TOP GTripp. I just think our team's record is a collaborative effort between the defense and the offense.

SOME of the blame for the offense's inability to score points has to be laid at Brunell's feet. He is, after all, the quarterback.

Good point re: TOP GTripp. I just think our team's record is a collaborative effort between the defense and the offense.

SOME of the blame for the offense's inability to score points has to be laid at Brunell's feet. He is, after all, the quarterback.My goal is not to absolve him of all blame. The great ones have the ability to rise to the next level, and make sure the team wins. At 2-5, Brunell has not won the games. I guess we've learned that Brunell is not great. But considering the conditions that he plays in, the guy, IMO, has played admiribly. I would not expect such production from a guy who is on the hot seat. He's good, not great.

It is beyond obvious to me that he gives this team it's best chance to win and that's all I'm saying. At the point where winning now becomes secondary to winning in the future, he will probably glady relinquish the job upon Gibbs request. He's a classy guy. We are still a loss within the division away from that point.

And thats the final word on Brunell from me...for today at least.

anyone want to explain to me how the 'efficiency' of consistently connecting on the 5yd completion on 3rd and 9, is better than potentially making a 50yd bomb?

even an interception 50yds down the field would be better than a surefire 4th and 4. no chance of scoring on a punt, and its almost the same field position!