It's not Brunell's fault!

What I'm saying is suppose Campbell comes out there and he's throwing the same passes, 3 step drop and screen. And we see that whoever is at QB we're still running the same offense, then who do we blame-Gibbs, Saunders, Campbell, the O-line? All I'm saying is we all assume that Campbell is going to come in and launch bombs all game long, but isn't it entirely possible that may not be the case?

i really doubt the Saunders playbook is 700 pages of dump offs. most pass plays have a reciever options in different parts of the field, not just behind the line of schrimmage.

yeah Brunell is trained to dump off on a blitz, but its become too much of reflex so defenses just gameplan that. if Brunell had the legs and reaction time to see who is open because of that blitz.....Ladell Betts wouldn't be our "go to guy"

forget throwing deep, brunell is too scared to throw for first downs, he takes so frickin long to drop back, that by the time he completes the screen, there are 2 linebackers sniffing it out. he's got no athleticism and horrible footwork right now. Saunders is not the problem and neither is GW. Lack of talent is the problem, especially on defense.

What I'm saying is suppose Campbell comes out there and he's throwing the same passes, 3 step drop and screen. And we see that whoever is at QB we're still running the same offense, then who do we blame-Gibbs, Saunders, Campbell, the O-line? All I'm saying is we all assume that Campbell is going to come in and launch bombs all game long, but isn't it entirely possible that may not be the case?
It would be sweet if it was.

But yeah, I was thinking of that the other day. Campbell may be a great quarterback eventually, but one thing I can be almost certain of is that he is not the cureall.

We tend to assume a different QB is a cure-all here in DC and usually that isn't the case. We need a healthy O-line that is a bunch of headbusters to rally behind Campbell, give him time, and spread the ball out. At the very least, let JC execute our offense and judge whether or not he's the answer.

I'm glad I'm no head coach and that's not my job, cause that is hard to do.

if that's the case, then wtf is saunders here? if they're not asked to throw deep in the first place, than those coaches shouldn't be running the offense. It doesn't need to be 60's raiders, but show me something instead of dump offs 5 yards short on every other 3rd down.I'd like to see some more agressive third down playcalling. But not downfield, just thrown at the marker on third and seven or third and eight. Chris Cooley. The dump off works a lot more than people credit it for, but we rely on it a bit to much on third down, I think. Chris Cooley.

I believe throwing down the field on third-and too-far-to-go-for-it-on-4th is highly counter productive. Chris Cooley.


Remember, Chris Cooley, our home run plays are the quick screen to Santana, and Portis off tackle. We really don't need a deep ball. If they are all in the box like people truely think they are, run a draw. Touchdown. Unless of course they have a safety back defending the deep ball that you all want to see so damn bad. Chris Cooley.

It would be sweet if it was.

But yeah, I was thinking of that the other day. Campbell may be a great quarterback eventually, but one thing I can be almost certain of is that he is not the cureall.

We tend to assume a different QB is a cure-all here in DC and usually that isn't the case. We need a healthy O-line that is a bunch of headbusters to rally behind Campbell, give him time, and spread the ball out. At the very least, let JC execute our offense and judge whether or not he's the answer.

I'm glad I'm no head coach and that's not my job, cause that is hard to do.

The most popular player always seems to be the backup QB. Remember when the Bills went to four straight Super Bowls, my friends in Buffalo say that Frank Reich was more popular than Jim Kelly anyway. Gmanc, can you confirm?

I'm still torn on whether Campbell should be starting now. At the very least though, he should be the #2 guy. Another thing I'm curious about-if Campbell does get the starting nod will Brunell be bumped down to #2 or #3?

You get your guys hurt trying to win a losing battle. Moss has a hamstring injury, Randle El came up funny and we didn't even try hard to come back at the end.

win a losing battle is why we play the game GTripp. also, people RACK UP yards during "garbage time". defenses are set up to give short yards and prevent quick scores. Brunell dumped off to Betts for 8yds at a clip and took the whole clock in the process. 1 TD scored, Indy wins the game. mission accomplished.

in fact its even in the name of the defense PREVENT. even i learned that in my days at Sega Genesis State.

you know, the shotgun worked a lot better for brunell... why did that disappear so completely? and where's the audibles that worked so well last year?

win a losing battle is why we play the game GTripp. also, people RACK UP yards during "garbage time". defenses are set up to give short yards and prevent quick scores. Brunell dumped off to Betts for 8yds at a clip and took the whole clock in the process. 1 TD scored, Indy wins the game. mission accomplished.

in fact its even in the name of the defense PREVENT. even i learned that in my days at Sega Genesis State.I wasn't talking about low percentage chances, I love those kind of comebacks, it's what I live for. I'm talking about two minute warning, down by 3 tds stuff, where the only hope for victory is Brunell to Mossx3 + 2 successful onside kicks. That just isn't worth it.

I understand a prevent, probably more so than the average person seeing as how I was a garbage time QB in HS. But I think you missed by point about how trailing 3 TDs is a HUGE disadvantage before the game gets to prevent defense status. Undoubtably, Brunell took a major beating due to the score. Yet, he continued to move the ball, and accrue completions. I think our third down playcalling needs to be more conventional.

Sega Genesis rocks my world.

I wasn't talking about low percentage chances, I love those kind of comebacks, it's what I live for. I'm talking about two minute warning, down by 3 tds stuff, where the only hope for victory is Brunell to Mossx3 + 2 successful onside kicks. That just isn't worth it.

I understand a prevent, probably more so than the average person seeing as how I was a garbage time QB in HS. But I think you missed by point about how trailing 3 TDs is a HUGE disadvantage before the game gets to prevent defense status. Undoubtably, Brunell took a major beating due to the score. Yet, he continued to move the ball, and accrue completions. I think our third down playcalling needs to be more conventional.

Sega Genesis rocks my world.

remember the Dallas game last year? the "turning point" of our season? with Moss as NFL player of the week? two improbable passes over the middle of the field and over the defense?

well Ladell Betts is a poor substitute. "garbage time" SHOULD mean two minutes, but lately it's been the entire second half.

you know, the shotgun worked a lot better for brunell... why did that disappear so completely? and where's the audibles that worked so well last year?

Like I said...bring back Bill Musgrave!!!