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GTripp0012 10-23-2006, 11:50 AM Oh and to answer the thread topic question:
It's not Brunell's fault because...see for yourself
NFL.com - Mark Brunell (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1032)
T.A.P.O.A.F.O.R. 10-23-2006, 11:59 AM no throws deep = 10 in the box = no running or screen game. Either he can't throw long or he won't, but strictly horizontal offenses don't work in the NFL.
watching the game, that's what hurt the most. i thought portis was playing well given what he had. what he had was everyone up on the line. 3/4 of the way through the game my roommate (a pats fan who rarely watches redskins games) comments, "holy crap. does he ever throw it more than 5 yards?"
Dogtag 10-23-2006, 12:00 PM Yeah, its Brunnl's fault. Let's go break his legs. Why can't he cover the oher team's recievers. And the field goals he has missed recently. He is not very good at stopping the run either. And have you noticed how he cant block the defensive line. One would hope he could call his own plays better.
At a cursory glance at the numbers, it seems MB is having a better year than most. As far as "garbage time", all QB's numbers are padded with a certain amount??? As stated earlier, it's a team sport and, and this team (with VERY few exceptions) shares the wealth. Can Brunell save us? No. Is it his fault? No------------Bring on JC. 2007 is NOW
That Guy 10-23-2006, 12:03 PM All good points. As far as MB this week, I'm not sure what you (the Warpath collective) would want from him? More deep incompletions? Is that what makes a great QB? Let's see who can throw down the field out of the reach of everyone. Then the D will really respect us! Sadly, this is really what some of you want.
Brunell went down the field twice in the first half, completed one, and the other seemed like a pretty good throw that Santana almost got to. I think we were all victim of some questionable third down playcalling in the 3rd Quarter.
The guy is averageing OVER 7 yards an attempt (7.11 yards/attempt) on the year with less than a pick every two games. (For comparisons sake: Peyton Manning 7.87, Tom Brady 6.49, Jake Delhomme 6.62, Drew Bledsoe 6.71, Brett Favre 6.22) Hell, with those stats, I'd throw every play if I didn't have CP in the backfield.
So why throw down the field anymore than they are? If the offense is based on safe passes (which it is), and the goal of the offense is to move the ball efficently (which they have been doing), why the hell is a lack of fly routes a problem?
There is a lot to like about the offense from this game. Cooley appears to be reemerging. Brunell is spreading the ball, as Randle El, Moss, Lloyd, Betts, Portis, and Cooley all caught multiple passes. They go up and down the field with relative ease. I think the OLine struggled in the 2nd half and Brunell got beat up.
But if 73% completion and an interceptionless game doesn't satisfy you, then I mean WHAT THE HELL WOULD?
is this a joke? i really hope it is.
if you can't complete deep, no one is going to keep guys out of the box. you're mistaking stats for facts. the stats are nice, but they're garbage. without the last drive, he has 160 yards for the game. he kept throwing for 4 yards when he needed 8. he refuses to throw over the middle of the field. he refuses to throw deep. it looks like he's just out there to be out there. his numbers are more YAC inflated than most.
and no, qbs on bad teams rack up a LOT more garbage time stats on winning teams.
SmootSmack 10-23-2006, 12:08 PM he refuses to throw over the middle of the field. he refuses to throw deep. it looks like he's just out there to be out there. his numbers are more YAC inflated than most.
So a lot of people like to say Brunell either refuses to throw deep or is scared to, but isn't it entirely possible that's what's being asked of him? I mean, what happens if Campbell comes in and starts doing the same thing? Then what do we say?
Twilbert07 10-23-2006, 12:09 PM So a lot of people like to say Brunell either refuses to throw deep or is scared to, but isn't it entirely possible that's what's being asked of him? I mean, what happens if Campbell comes in and starts doing the same thing? Then what do we say?
I would hope he's being ask to win, and he ain't doing that at 2-5.
I would hope he's being ask to win, and he ain't doing that at 2-5.
Teams win, individuals don't, ask Elway?
GTripp0012 10-23-2006, 12:11 PM At a cursory glance at the numbers, it seems MB is having a better year than most. As far as "garbage time", all QB's numbers are padded with a certain amount??? As stated earlier, it's a team sport and, and this team (with VERY few exceptions) shares the wealth. Can Brunell save us? No. Is it his fault? No------------Bring on JC. 2007 is NOWThis is pretty accurate. Brunell is not going to be a savior. Unfortunately, neither is Campbell. So as long is Brunell is playing well, and we are within 2.5 games of first place, I think GW has earned the ability to right the ship over the bye week.
If he can't none of this will matter, so then I'd say, yeah, bring on Campbell.
T.A.P.O.A.F.O.R. 10-23-2006, 12:12 PM So a lot of people like to say Brunell either refuses to throw deep or is scared to, but isn't it entirely possible that's what's being asked of him? I mean, what happens if Campbell comes in and starts doing the same thing? Then what do we say?
chicken or egg? possibly it's being asked of him because the coaching staff feels that's what's suited to his skills.
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